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Do you think that English Bill and Swiss halberdier need improvement?

Yes, giving them 4 attack directions
12 (21.8%)
Yes, giving them better stats (dmg, speed)
14 (25.5%)
No, i think they're fine.
29 (52.7%)

Total Members Voted: 55

Voting closed: March 19, 2011, 04:35:57 pm

Author Topic: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.  (Read 6205 times)

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Offline ShinySpoons

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Re: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2011, 01:58:17 pm »
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If anything, the Ashwood Pike needs a buff into usefulness. At its current state i see zero reason to take it over any other weapon in any situation  :|

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Re: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.
« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2011, 04:29:33 pm »
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I think the pokers are near OP, certainly not underpowered.

Evidenced by the almost dozen players that use them heavily?

If anything, the Ashwood Pike needs a buff into usefulness. At its current state i see zero reason to take it over any other weapon in any situation  :|

Increasing the swing damage of the ashwood pike is about the only buff that would not result in it being an awlpike/long awlpike.

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Re: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2011, 04:45:26 pm »
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The ashwood pike looks awesome but who in their right mind would use it over warspear or pike/bamboo that's the problem imo.

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Re: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2011, 06:22:34 pm »
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A bunch of shogunates armed up with swiss halberds today on crp1 and crpg5. Worked wonders.
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Re: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2011, 06:50:31 pm »
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They were using the bill.

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Re: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2011, 07:06:15 pm »
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Evidenced by the almost dozen players that use them heavily?

It's not used a lot because they don't fit into the usual playstyle of most people, which is being able to solo mobs of enemies (they still fail at it, but they think they have a chance if the take 2h/the favourite poelarms). Honestly, when I'm meleeing, the worst enemies are the ones backed up by pike/bill and so forth. They are AWESOME support wepons, the problem is that people don't wanna play support.

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Re: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2011, 07:15:51 pm »
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Yep, they are the terror of every 2hander. Some have even shield break bonus.

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Re: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2011, 04:45:06 am »
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It's not used a lot because they don't fit into the usual playstyle of most people, which is being able to solo mobs of enemies (they still fail at it, but they think they have a chance if the take 2h/the favourite poelarms). Honestly, when I'm meleeing, the worst enemies are the ones backed up by pike/bill and so forth. They are AWESOME support wepons, the problem is that people don't wanna play support.

you can argue this about several other weapons with similar properties... but they are all much cheaper. You forget to mention these two weapons are some of the most expensive polearms in the game.
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
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Re: English Bill and Swiss Halberd needs love.
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2011, 08:03:34 am »
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Increasing the swing damage of the ashwood pike is about the only buff that would not result in it being an awlpike/long awlpike.

That would make sense. Or remove it entirely if devs need item space for more awesome stuff instead.