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Do you want to see YATAGHAN in cRPG ?

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Offline Marshal_Nemesis

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New 1h sword : Yataghan
« on: March 12, 2011, 10:34:12 am »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yatagan
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It consisted of a single-edged blade with a marked forward curve and a hilt formed of two grip plaques attached through the tang, the end of the hilt being shaped like large ears. The gap between the grips is covered by a metal strap, which is often decorated. The blade varies from 60 to 80 cm in length and is curved forward (like the Iberian falcata, or Greek kopis), sometimes reclining backwards again towards the very end. This blade form is often referred to as being 'recurved.' While the back of the blade is made of softer steel, the sharp edge is made of hard, tempered steel for durability.

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The hilt has no guard, 'bolsters' of metal connect the grips to the shoulder of the blade. The grip plaques are typically made from bone, ivory, horn or silver, and spread out in two 'wings' or 'ears' to either side at the pommel (a feature which prevents the sword slipping out of the hand when used to cut). Regional variations in the hilts have been noted: Balkan yatagans tend to have larger ears and are often of bone or ivory, whilst Anatolian yatagans characteristically have smaller ears which are more often made of horn. Sophisticated artwork on both the hilt and the blade can be seen on many yatagans displayed today, indicating considerable symbolic value. Having no guard, the yatagan fitted closely into the top of the scabbard; this was customarily worn thrust into a waist sash, retained by hook.

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So yataghan found some support from various sources..armor penetration thing seems to divert voters..so i am creating two version of stats..if admins decide to add yataghan to game they can choose the armor penetrating one(a new integration to the game and historicly accurate)..or the old style one(for game balance)..it is up to them now..

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weight 1.50

requirement 9

spd rtng 99

weapon length 82 (87,5 cm)

swing damage 33*, cut

thrust damage 21 pierce

*Armor penetration
+1 (34)dmg to chain mails
+2 (35)dmg to plate mails


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weight 1.50

requirement 9

spd rtng 99

weapon length 82 (87,5 cm)

swing damage 34, cut

thrust damage 21 pierce


7,753 gold

*Stats and price of the sword can change for balance
« Last Edit: March 16, 2011, 01:13:16 pm by Marshal_Nemesis »

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2011, 04:31:26 pm »
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Not sure bonus against armor can be done, as for the damage first time I saw 34c I was like "Damn, calm the fuck down" but then I noticed the 96 speed rating and it might make a bit of sense.

I find the length is a little too much though, maybe reduce it to somewhere around 90 and we might have a decent strong hitting 1 handed sword.

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2011, 04:49:47 pm »
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Against.


(Nothing personal, I just don't like 19th century weapons in the game.)
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2011, 05:52:47 pm »
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weight 1.50
requirement 8
spd rtng 96
weapon length 101
swing damage 34, cut
thrust damage 21 pierce


Bonus against Armor (not shield)

*numbers can change

Theres allready a 1hander like that, the peasant knife.

You're outta your mind.
That thing couldnt slice through a pair of chinese made sneakers.
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 11:50:58 am »
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Lol this weapon was used from 16th century to 19th century (there are some informations about even 13th).. Janissaries in ottoman empire used this on sea and land battles..against barbarians to crusaders..

The weapons SOLE PURPOSE was to break bones and penetrate armors and did for centuries.. sneakers??lol!

anyway it seems this does not work.. you got elite scimitar but not yatagan..your call.

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2011, 04:21:23 pm »
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The weapons SOLE PURPOSE was to break bones and penetrate armors and did for centuries.. sneakers??lol!

Break bones?

Sure, if the guy youre fighting is wearing a pyjamas, which they did in the 16-19th century.
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2011, 04:36:25 pm »
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Your suggestion stats are overpowered, makes every other weapon useless.
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2011, 04:41:28 pm »
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"Bonus against armour"?

Heh, no.


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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2011, 04:56:36 pm »
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Nothing wrong with more variety, and stats are easily tweaked for balance. It would be great for people that like playing Eastern themed characters, and it's not a fantasy weapon, so why the hate? It really is a beautiful weapon, especially this one :
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2011, 04:59:31 pm »
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No. Can't we have some more Western shizzle? Specially polearms :/

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2011, 05:08:01 pm »
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this sword seems to be very short, so 101 length is really over the top.
its length should be similar to the Falchion's 73.

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2011, 05:21:24 pm »
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Lets add this one too.

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2011, 05:44:15 pm »
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There's a potential issue with the shape too.  This is only hearsay but I think curved weapons may actually have straight models.  E.g. the curved blade of a scimitar is a decoy from the actual invisible straight blade.  If this weapon is curved forward there may be an issue with it not hitting for a moment even though the visually curved model is intersecting with the models of enemy.  Not necessarily a big issue, or even one at all, but something to consider.

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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2011, 06:05:04 pm »
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Sword is very sexy, ive been wanting a recurved sword for a very long time, should be 80 range, 98 speed, 32 cut, 18 stab pierce. Thats how it should be to run inline with others, cand still be nice itself.
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Re: New 1h sword : Yataghan
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2011, 06:31:04 pm »
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Bonus agaisnt armor is dumb
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