Why Couched Lances Are Still In This Game.

[Frankysan]

[The_Bloody_Nine]

bullshit.

Getting couched from behind and in general can be very frustrating and I hate it very much each time it happens. Nonetheless it is in no way an I-win-button and if you see someone with a couched lance you can easily dodge and with good movement even kill/hurt most doing it. Also you can avoid getting in a spot where cav can couch you. All in all it ads more varity and depth to the game and should stay of course.

The only thing/tweak I could imagine was that couching becomes no longer stoppable. Means if you hit x you cannot abort couch before it stops itself or you get too slow. This would probably cause a lot of TKs at first but would be also nice because you'd have to be really sure if you wanna use it in your current situation.

[Spa_geh_tea]

Let's just toss out the great lance then. The other lances are rarely couched except to take out very heavy targets anyway.

[Okkam]

bullshit.

Getting couched from behind and in general can be very frustrating and I hate it very much each time it happens. Nonetheless it is in no way an I-win-button and if you see someone with a couched lance you can easily dodge and with good movement even kill/hurt most doing it. Also you can avoid getting in a spot where cav can couch you. All in all it ads more varity and depth to the game and should stay of course.

The only thing/tweak I could imagine was that couching becomes no longer stoppable. Means if you hit x you cannot abort couch before it stops itself or you get too slow. This would probably cause a lot of TKs at first but would be also nice because you'd have to be really sure if you wanna use it in your current situation.

50% chance to broke lance with couche will work even better. (with 20% chance to broke at minimal couchable speed and 100% at maximum horse speed)
1 slot for heavy lance in this case ofc.

[Spa_geh_tea]

So, great lance never breaks. Otherwise its a waste, because poke poke lance range and ability to one shot >= great lance couch.

[Rumblood]

Really? I mean really? You can't manage to avoid a a guy who has to achieve a set speed before the thing will couch, and then it isn't easy to hit an aware target. I watch them come, sidestep and shoot them in the face.

I guess this is a L2P post 

[Leshma]

1) Buff Great Lance.
2) Nerf couching with Heavy Lance:
- double the speed needed to be in couching mode when using HL
- shorten the duration (not sure if possible?)

[Frankysan]

Really? I mean really? You can't manage to avoid a a guy who has to achieve a set speed before the thing will couch, and then it isn't easy to hit an aware target. I watch them come, sidestep and shoot them in the face.

I guess this is a L2P post 

sorry but i bet you are a lancer lol. my point is the heavy lance is a powerfull weapon on horseback, and doesn't need any unblockable lame onehitting move to be viable.
your L2P is kinda tard; instead  give us a good reason why couch should stay on heavy lance. Looks totally unnecessary to me, everyone realizes  is a shortcut to mastering the timing of lance stab, and atm one of the plagues of this mod is exactly cavalry taking NO SKILLS AT ALL to play;maybe taking off the picture the free kills from this lame move would be a good start.

on the great lance is fine i guess, so you can lol at noob lancer at first sight when you see one..

[TurmoilTom]

sorry but i bet you are a lancer lol. my point is the heavy lance is a powerfull weapon on horseback, and doesn't need any unblockable lame onehitting move to be viable.
your L2P is kinda tard; instead  give us a good reason why couch should stay on heavy lance. Looks totally unnecessary to me, everyone realizes  is a shortcut to mastering the timing of lance stab, and atm one of the plagues of this mod is exactly cavalry taking NO SKILLS AT ALL to play;maybe taking off the picture the free kills from this lame move would be a good start.

on the great lance is fine i guess, so you can lol at noob lancer at first sight when you see one..

Rumblood's an archer. Couched lances *are* blockable. You just need a shield. Funny thing is that you don't need to block them if you just press a movement button. That's why I only couched idle dudes at enemy spawn. I'm not cav anymore, though. You may find this hard to believe, but I found it more difficult than 2h. Now I'm a 2h again. I love my ezmodo 2h.

[Son Of Odin]

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sorry but i bet you are a lancer lol. my point is the heavy lance is a powerfull weapon on horseback, and doesn't need any unblockable lame onehitting move to be viable.
your L2P is kinda tard; instead  give us a good reason why couch should stay on heavy lance. Looks totally unnecessary to me, everyone realizes  is a shortcut to mastering the timing of lance stab, and atm one of the plagues of this mod is exactly cavalry taking NO SKILLS AT ALL to play;maybe taking off the picture the free kills from this lame move would be a good start.

on the great lance is fine i guess, so you can lol at noob lancer at first sight when you see one..

Someone clearly has never tried to play as cavalry . Couching isn't really that simple and it has big weaknesses. Therefore it has to be used only in special occations. Actually hitting someone with couched lance is a bit tricky and you have to train good amount of time to use it effectively. Most of infantry can dodge it if they are aware. I use it basically only against shielders. Sometimes against noob archers who are not seeing it coming. That is fun, but for experienced player it is really easy to dodge couched lance and counterattack.

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Serious case of l2p imo.

[Gnjus]

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[Wookimonsta]

50% chance to broke lance with couche will work even better. (with 20% chance to broke at minimal couchable speed and 100% at maximum horse speed)
1 slot for heavy lance in this case ofc.

thats fine, of course to balance it, lets make it so horsebump has a 50% chance to break your legs. (with 20% chance to broke at minimal couchable speed and 100% at maximum horse speed)

Not for balance of course, I just want to see people with broken legs crawling around the battlefield, trying to fight each other.

[obitus]

if you honestly have trouble getting couched you need to

-move up a 20 degree incline, or
-stand by or on obstacles

[Okkam]

thats fine, of course to balance it, lets make it so horsebump has a 50% chance to break your legs. (with 20% chance to broke at minimal couchable speed and 100% at maximum horse speed)

Not for balance of course, I just want to see people with broken legs crawling around the battlefield, trying to fight each other.

Ok. Also let's make it so every collision of your horse with tree, wall, stone, another horse will broke your horse's legs and neck. I just want to see whining horseman without their armored mountainbikes.

Have you ever seen a horse IRL? Collision with galloping horse will broke your ribs, or hands, but chance to broke leg is really tiny.

[Casimir]

A warhorse is purposefully bred to be bigger and stronger than an average horse, so that its physical impact is more devestatinjg.

If one of those ran into you, im fairly sure teh chance of death or serious injury would be fairly high, and thats without any form of armor to add to their mass.