Gold is worhtless

[MrShine]

there should be complete wipeout of everything

So everyone loses?

Yeah I don't think that would go over real well for the health of the mod.

[B3RS3RK]

The only problem exists for People like me.

You know, I rarely retire(Even though I started playing cRPG even before retiring was even introduced I am only gen 4), and if I do, I loom some Item I want to play with.

The Thing is, when I loomed weapons, I loomed stuff like a normal spear, and before the spear a military sickle.Now I loomed a Long axe.

Those are "rare" heirlooms, but they are rare in the first place because there aren´t that many people playing with them.

The "Easy-to-bore" type of guy I am, I switched my playstyles rather often, so I had to try and swap in my loomed weapon for another one.

Every time I did this, I had to pay something extra to get the trade done, mostly between 30 and 50k.That was money I earned inbetween my retirements.Sometimes I also sold my weapon(For a rather lowish price because my types of weapon weren´t popular), and then I had to put in up to 300k on top to get my desired weapon or loom point.

So basically, all my money I made between those retirements(Pretty much actually since I never wear really expensive gear)went away just for exchanging my few looms with more matching ones.

It also got harder every time I did this, just because Loompoints increased in price so much.

And since loompoints are REALLY expensive right now, I won´t be able to do that in the future.Which means I lost.

[gazda]

i wonder how many nolifers would GTX

[kinngrimm]

...
What is important is that marketplace and loompoints reassigning can't exist at the same time. If it existed you could buy loomed shit and unwanted gear and than make it +3. Also there wouldn't be such a need of dealing with other players if you had an option of reassigning your looms.

they could, you just need to imagine the world differently. Who would be hurt by such a duality ?

@MrShine, the only ones i can imagine being hurt atm are those who got nerfed gear. Noone would want it, you wouldn't make as much as you would need to get another loom.
But then again, some play the type of gear, because they love that type of gear not because it gives them the edge. So only the powergamers have reason to be butthurt which is not that bad of a deal.

@Gaza
Try to imagine me, in a few years time when i managed to come to lvl 36, only then to learn that crpg development&server support is lost for good ... this is now actually already a complete mindfuck for me ^^

[The_danish_lost_viking]

get gold for how many you kill :-)

[gazda]

how bout exact oposite, you loose gold for every kill you make, lets see who will top the scoreboard then

[PanPan]

I rly would want a whipe...

[djavo]

What about adding central bank, I would be chairman of course?

[gazda]

this is desperate situation for crpg economy, we better call that greek financial expert panos

[Gurnisson]

I read 'God is worthless' at first.

[B3RS3RK]

I read 'God is worthless' at first.

Just happened to me, too.

[POOPHAMMER]

I read 'God is worthless' at first.

Yeah? I read it as 'Gold is worthless' then looked again

[Grumbs]

Put a weekly maintenance system in for each item you own depending on its level. Like everything breaks once per week even if you don't use it. Would get the economy moving more and might make people consider keeping gold rather than just trying to barter with items

[Kafein]

why would they ? In my view the marketplace main role is to "get rid" of stuff you don't wanna use anymore, either through nerf or just because you are bored of it. At the time you sell, if you have half a brain, you check the actual prices, get half a decent price, take/need perhaps some more gold for a replacement of what you sold for another piece of gear. Over all, win!

The people that continuously retire and sell a part or all their heirloom points do it for the purpose of getting gold, be it to buy cheaper looms, or to pay the upkeep. Trading looms is a separate use of the marketplace, and I don't think it is linked to this issue.

That is a bit harsh, not like he alone planed it all from the beginning, the evil mastermind to fuckup the loomed prizes.
If at all it is the fault of our god chadz ;) , who is trying to test us till he finds a way to make our life better.

Yep, that's why I added "no offense", but it still sound a bit harsh. And of course I don't think anything was planned by an evil mastermind What happens is more like the consequences of a lack of planning.


I think the market is an interesting metagame at the moment, and it also balances retirement vs leveling extremely elegantly, as I demonstrated earlier.

[Kafein]

That was cool but then they introduced marketplace and said: There won't be any reassigning because there is a marketplace so if we wanted to change something we should go and try dealing with other players.

Really, this.

This is the only thing I think is flawed with the marketplace. When items are buffed/nerfed, people don't get the same price for these before and after the balance changes. They get the estimated values, taking the current stats into account. Which means if the balance team decides item A has to be nerfed, and this item looses 50k of it's "real" value in the process, then the players that have that item effectively lost 50k, because even if they sell the item, they sell it for 50k less than what they could before the nerf.