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A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« on: March 16, 2012, 01:48:05 pm »
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Hail, my friends.
I am here by a simple request. But, ooh who the heck am I?

First a brief introduction of me, I have many names. I am known as "Ronin" in the realms of Calradia, "Windmaster" in the deserts of Middle-east, "Dora the Mighty explorer" in the Amazon Forests, "Mithrandir" in the land of Gondor, "Devin the Stargazer" in Anatolia, "Orpheus" in Ancient Greece, "Omar Khayyam" in Antagarich, "The Scourge" or "Spaz Maddicus the magnificent" among my enemies, and as "Geralt of Reyvadin" in a World where persitent people live.

But you know me as, Mahir The Kuşucurtmaz!
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Sometimes, I am a goalkeeper, who lets no goal to be scored (for both my team and the opponents team) and eats nothing but "sörf".
sometimes, I am a philosophist (not a philosopher) who thinks absurdly to understand the matters of this absurdly world.
Sometimes, I am a shiny blademaster who slices his foes very very professionally.
Sometimes, you see me as an enemy in the battlefield and feel very terrified. Only in a hope to delay your death, which is; without a doubt; in vain.
Sometimes, you can't even see me. Because I'm on your back, and you will lie dead in 2 seconds.
And...
Sometimes, I am just a friendly guy whom you had a nice and qualified chit-chat.

No matter who I am, and with what name I am called I am just a human being who doesn't like to boast (a big fat lie). Well... the matter is, I have a request. A very special and perhaps absurd request, which has a big value for me if it is accepted. I want the Dadao to be a top-tier weapon, just like it deserves. As it looks like "Sultan of all swords", "The King of the Desert", "Scorpion Blade" and perhaps many more in terms of being epic. I humbly request you to look at this magnificent sword.
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Doesn't it look epic? It saddens me it is not a great weapon as the weapon deserves. I can even cry :cry:, and you know it is unwise to make a God sad as you may all drown and perish in it's tears.
Practically Dadao (aka. The Sultan of All Swords) has statistically worse stats than that ugly thing called "War Cleaver". Yuck, even writing this abomination make me vomit. Please note that, if making a God cry means flood for all worldly beings, it is not very hard to imagine what a vomiting would cause. But be warned, it can make you vomit as well and if everyone goes vomit plus to a god it would be have a double effect; which is... ehh I shut up.

Let's talk a bit statistically.
Dadao:
Speed: 92, Length: 115, Swing: 42 cut, Weight: 3 kg, Slots: 2
5226 gold
requires 12 strength

Ugly weapon that make me vomit:
Speed: 92, Length: 120, Swing: 45 cut, Unbalanced, Weight: 3.5 kg, Slots: 2
7210 gold
requires 15 strength

I am simply forced to play with that ugly thing (if there wouldn't be other swords of course). The only thing that my beloved weapon is low cost and lower strength requirement. This is not only a tragic tale, but also a bit unrealistic. A weapon has more weight, more lenght and Strength requirement than the other one, but both have same speed. But this is not a game-balance or realism suggestion; this is a request as I said. The stats I have in mind are:
Dadao
Speed: 93, Length: 115, Swing: 43 cut, Weight: 3 kg, Slots: 2
7000 gold
requires 12 strength

Or something which fits for a top-tier weapon.

Eh, I humbly thank you for reading my request dear mortal. I hope you will consider this. If you want more pictures of this beauty, there are some in different angles.
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Hope, it was a good read :)
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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 01:54:56 pm »
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The fuck, Dadao is like one of the best mid-tier swords in game, on top of that, as you mentioned it, it also looks great.

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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 01:59:24 pm »
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Way greater than that puny Miodao and way way more greater then that ugly thing that make vomit.
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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 02:33:37 pm »
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Snap, a fellow Omar Khayyam! Brb gotta stick apart.
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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 05:09:54 pm »
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The Dadao is better than the War cleaver.The War cleaver is unbalanced, more expensive and has higher difficulty.
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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 05:32:20 pm »
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So dadao is good because it has 12 str requirement ?
Try to kill me with  4 powerstrike + dadao if you can ; yeah your argumant is valid.

I think only thing that Dadao needs is "stab" attack.
No matter how much damage it deals , (10 cut - 15 cut i dont care...) stab attack is needed .
And no it is not the best mid tier 2h sword , HBS is way more better because STAB animation makes 2hander class useful and without it , its just plain retarded.

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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 05:46:30 pm »
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I would like to see Dadao buffed and made more expensive. It doesn't deserve to be just mid-tier sword.

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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 05:46:53 pm »
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So dadao is good because it has 12 str requirement ?
Try to kill me with  4 powerstrike + dadao if you can ; yeah your argumant is valid.

I think only thing that Dadao needs is "stab" attack.
No matter how much damage it deals , (10 cut - 15 cut i dont care...) stab attack is needed .
And no it is not the best mid tier 2h sword , HBS is way more better because STAB animation makes 2hander class useful and without it , its just plain retarded.

i don't know why curved swords don't have stab attack in this game, quite ridiculous. dadao's shape is quite good for a stab attack.
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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 06:05:25 pm »
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So dadao is good because it has 12 str requirement ?
Try to kill me with  4 powerstrike + dadao if you can ; yeah your argumant is valid.


You can make a 12/27 Build easily with a Dadao.Which means over 180 wpf in 2h and 9 Athletics.If you are good with Agi builds, you can kill everyone with that easily.

It´s a matter of preferences if you are better with Agi or Str builds, but the Dadao has the Advantage that it is POSSIBLE to use it with 12 strength.This means a wider range of usability.
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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 06:46:36 pm »
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You can make a 12/27 Build easily with a Dadao.Which means over 180 wpf in 2h and 9 Athletics.If you are good with Agi builds, you can kill everyone with that easily.

It´s a matter of preferences if you are better with Agi or Str builds, but the Dadao has the Advantage that it is POSSIBLE to use it with 12 strength.This means a wider range of usability.

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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 07:11:23 pm »
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That's why dadao should be buffed. I don't care if it has thrust or not. Not all weapons have to have a thrust whatsover, that side swing animations are also very tricky to use and it is a good way to balance things out.
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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 08:50:33 pm »
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agiwhores use miaodao

Well the Dadao has slightly more damage and is cheaper.

The Dadao is such a good weapon, it doesnt need a buff.Totally unnecessary to buff the best Mid-tier 2h sword further.
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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2012, 08:57:28 pm »
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Well, War Cleaver is unbalanced, unlike Dadao, which is quite an advantage for dadao. It does look awesome, though i myself prefer Miaodao, it looks even more awesome (dadao feels a bit fantasyish to me).

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Re: A request for the Sultan of swords, Dadao!
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2012, 10:52:16 pm »
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Warcleaver is also longer and deals more damage. Miaodao is much faster, it's spammers choice.

People go either for length and damage or speed and damage. Very few choose weapons in between, like Dadao.
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