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Question: items balance
« on: March 15, 2012, 10:47:15 am »
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Should people who do the item balance play this mod, play different classes regulary or not?

- Broken pike/spear hit boxes and 180-360 degree thrust attack
- Ghosting (shield)
- Not registered hits for short weapons in close range
- Arabian warhorse is maybe a bit unrealistic and op with 7 points in riding
- Ranged very accurate and with big damage and high athletics, the score of jambi in other games you can get only in a jet. No counter for this.
- Shortened Military Scythe damage 39c while Military Scythe damage 32c !!! Come on is this the balance?
- Items balance in strategus is broken:
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- The most annoying is maybe the useless wpf investment because of slow game speed that make feinting mostly useless the result is boring combat with hold attacks... or jumping silly around


Why not have an alt item balance team or add more active playing people to it?
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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2012, 10:48:43 am »
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Tbh the Jambi archer score can only be done by... well Jambi

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 10:49:50 am »
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Tbh the Jambi archer score can only be done by... well Jambi

Shik, Gori?

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 10:52:54 am »
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Shik, Gori?

I only know Shik as someone who talks history too much and I don't know who Gori is.

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 11:01:18 am »
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I only know Shik as someone who talks history too much and I don't know who Gori is.

The druzhina sniper. Many people from poland, russia and turkey active play the mod for long time, why not open a place or two for them in balance team, this is my idea.

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 12:40:39 pm »
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I only know Shik as someone who talks history too much
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1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 12:53:17 pm »
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You want to tell devs what they have to play?  :rolleyes:

It is there mod and they can play whatever they want. And I think balance would still be crap even if they played another class^^


Typical, name one or two good players and balance on them.....you shouldn't talk about balance if you bring such arguments  :lol:
Archery dmg is low enough already and accuracy....well I doubt a highly trained archer couldn't hit his target over a certain range. The only crap is the snipe for heads, but hey: devs consider it as realistic or whatever :/

If you can't faint you should probably go learn it. I usually don't tell people that they should go learn to play their class, but fainting is quite easy and still works, even against good players. I'm mainly archer and only play my melee chars regularly since patch before last one due to crappy textures, but in that short time you can become a decent fighter and learn fainting.


Where is the sense in putting someone from Russia, Poland or whereever into the balance team? It's about balancing the game not about balancing nations, races or whatever :rolleyes:

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 03:11:23 pm »
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pikes suck. pike swinging makes them viable.  look how many people main the pike.

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 03:16:32 pm »
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Tbh the Jambi archer score can only be done by... well Jambi
I always believed this, but recently I have seen others.

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 03:38:33 pm »
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ghost shield is only thing that I think could possibly be addressed, the other issues come down to learning tactics and finding the weakness of your enemy.

Not every weapon should be completely balanced with every other weapon.  Each should have it's own strengths and weaknesses, and the players should decide what they want to utilize in their playstyle.  That's what makes this game so great...if everything is balanced so that every class and play style can 1v1 each other, the game would be even more nerfed than it is now.

Stop the nerfs!  Focus on fixing strategus!  :)  Yes, new equipment and armor is nice...(yeah! more content), but having strategus improved would be where I vote the dev's time should be concentrated on.
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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 03:43:15 pm »
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I always believed this, but recently I have seen others.

The only other guy I've seen close it was Hanzo. Who are these others you speak of (would like to know so I can avoid them by a mile)?

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 03:59:33 pm »
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Many people from poland, russia and turkey active play the mod for long time, why not open a place or two for them in balance team, this is my idea.

knowing the reputation of the polish and russian community in this mod, i would leave the game if any got into the dev team  :mrgreen:

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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2012, 04:13:00 pm »
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I want my Lordly Black Armor back :(
Nerfed from top armor to crap  :mad:
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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2012, 04:22:12 pm »
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The only other guy I've seen close it was Hanzo. Who are these others you speak of (would like to know so I can avoid them by a mile)?

Gori plays siege a lot.
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Re: Question: items balance
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2012, 04:32:44 pm »
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I always believed this, but recently I have seen others.

Yup, NA has SaifaQc for our version, little nutjob does not play for months, comes back and does poorly with only 23 kills instead of 30 and 3 deaths instead of 1 or 2. Envious, so envious...

Regardless, there are a few cav and melee users who get those same scores more often then not.
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