Stats DAY!

[Casimir]

just cos you cant reload it, doesn't mean you can't use it?

[joespose]

Smoke Bomb                   1,062    0.07% 
Smoke Bomb (mounted)         41       0.00% 

Now smoke bombs are pretty wtf i wasn't aware you could get killed by them but:

Siege Shield                 18       0.00% 

Really?
Who the fuck killed 18 people with a siege shield?

[LastKaze]

Polearm
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Heavy Lance (mounted)              3,965,363  31.22%

I'm not surprised...

[Cyclopsided]

War Spear                         590,172    3.53% 

I dont feel original anymore ._. But that is damage done right? maybe it is because of me it is in the top 5!

Number 1 NA swingable pole arm is war spear. Followed by bec of course. NOTE: I think damage done to horses is included as damage in these stats, hence why heavy lance/pike/long spear are so high.

Heavy Lance (mounted)              3,965,363  31.22%
Long Spear                         880,724    6.93%
Pike                               632,020    4.98%
War Spear                          503,263    3.96%
Bec de Corbin                      479,231    3.77% 

no, it is straight up killing blows

no. it is damage done.

Arbalest (mounted)         1,234      0.04% 

wat

I made tons and tons of kills with that thing aagesss ago

just cos you cant reload it, doesn't mean you can't use it?

Yeah, you can fire it but not reload it. You can ride around, shoot somebody, then park in a safe spot, reload, hop back on horse, repeat. No thanks though lol.

Smoke Bomb                   1,062    0.07% 
Smoke Bomb (mounted)         41       0.00% 

Now smoke bombs are pretty wtf i wasn't aware you could get killed by them but:

Siege Shield                 18       0.00% 

Really?
Who the fuck killed 18 people with a siege shield?

DAMAGE DONE over a month span. Not kills. and yeah, they do 1 damage when thrown; but gravity gives a pretty big speed bonus to slow objects falling.
I've been thinking of throwing siege shields down ladders at people in siege until i get a kill with one.

[Zerran]

NOTE: I think damage done to horses is included as damage in these stats, hence why heavy lance/pike/long spear are so high.

I'd say it's more likely because the pike and long spear are essentially a class of their own. Players that want a "dueling" style weapon have almost all the 2H and a huge number of polearms to choose from, players that want a heavy support role can choose the 2D polearms and have the overhead, or go all out and get either the pike or the longspear.

This is why these stats are worthless for balance purposes, there are a million lurking variables. Not to say they aren't interesting though.

On a side note, watch out for weapon secondary modes, they show up separately from the primary mode, which is why weapons like the poleaxes and bec are listed twice, once with a reasonable amount of damage and another with a tiny amount.

[Christo]

On a side note, watch out for weapon secondary modes, they show up separately from the primary mode, which is why weapons like the poleaxes and bec are listed twice, once with a reasonable amount of damage and another with a tiny amount.

Elegant Poleaxe                   257,043    1.54% 

Ah, makes sense then.

What I've seen was the alternate mode.

[Renten]

EU polearm kills:

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Polearm
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Heavy Lance (mounted)             5,726,522  34.20%
Long Spear                        998,948    5.97% 
Great Long Axe                    889,619    5.31% 
Heavy Lance                       596,483    3.56% 
War Spear                         590,172    3.53% 
Lance (mounted)                   518,207    3.10% 
Awlpike                           473,112    2.83% 
Pike                              422,081    2.52% 
Long Hafted Blade                 404,460    2.42% 

 

Mounted Heavy lance is more kills than the next 9 polearms. That's including the Lance (mounted). Without that it'd be even more. It is just less than 6 times more kills than the 2nd place killer, the longspear.

US Polearms kills:

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Polearm
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Heavy Lance (mounted)              3,965,363  31.22%
Long Spear                         880,724    6.93% 
Pike                               632,020    4.98% 
War Spear                          503,263    3.96% 
Bec de Corbin                      479,231    3.77% 
Awlpike                            427,092    3.36% 
Long Hafted Blade                  392,029    3.09% 
Elegant Poleaxe                    320,802    2.53% 
Lance (mounted)                    315,671    2.49%

Heavy lance (mounted) has more kills than the next 8 put together including the Lance (mounted). A bit more than 4 times more kills than the second place killer, the longspear.


This is rather surprising, since in comparison for EU two handers their first place is only the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th places added together or about 2.6 times more kills than 2nd place. For NA two hands the 2nd and 3rd place add up to first and first is less than double kills than second. I compared against 2h since they both prevent the use of a shield while in use. The kill difference between top scoring one handers is actually quite small.

Everything under this is me going insane. Ignore it.
Actually I may not be insane. It really does seem that for example the Polearm damage in the stats is actually the polearm + polearm (mounted) damage. Yet polearm (mounted) is another section that got rated. So without it polearms would only be 5% of the kills on EU, but that just seems to small.

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What I've learned from this? Polearms are gaining a huge standing in the stats even though we normally count cav as a different class than polearm footmen. I don't see why the mounted stats are included in the footman stats in any of the weapons. Cav really is a different thing. Here is the stats without mounted kills included.

EU stats:No mounted
TwoHander- 12,136,178  40%
OneHander-   6,656,776  22%
Bow-              3,934,160  13%
Polearm-        3,037,369  10%
Crossbow-     2,854,962    9%
Thrown-         1,463,725    5%
Total-           30,083,170

NA stats:No mounted
TwoHander-  8,572,973    39%
OneHander-  4,673,768    21%
Polearm-       3,156,778    14%
Bow-             3,130,551    14%
Thrown-        1,476,584      7%
Crossbow-       942,668      4%
Total-          21,953,332

Spread sheet was rounding to two decimals.

This gives a much better view of how things work among footmen.

Edit: Looking at the stats with mounted included but separate shows the differences even more. I might do them tomorrow if someone else doesn't.

[Radament]

Siege Shield                 18       0.00% 

  buff siege shields pls

[Chris_P_Bacon]

TIL Flamberge is more popular than Heavy Bastard Sword.
Edit: Or at least the damage to popularity ratio is higher.

[robert_namo]

The nodachi needs a buff according to these stats.

[obitus]

these stats aren't very informative.  we need to know the PROPORTION OF PLAYERS USING THESE WEAPONS so we can weight the kills against that.

[[ptx]]

It is damage, not kills! Was said multiple times, both on the original thread and here, l2read.

[Spawny]

these stats aren't very informative.  we need to know the PROPORTION OF PLAYERS USING THESE WEAPONS so we can weight the kills against that.

Very important if you want to make inferences based on this data set.

[dodnet]

Where are the AUS and Asia Stats.

Here I'll post the AUS stats for you.

+3 Scimitart 33% +3 Nordic Champ Sword 33% Flamburg 33%. Stats done.

What about the 1% thats missing? 

[Paul]

What about the 1% thats missing? 

On Criminal's Island stuff just disappears.