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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #180 on: March 07, 2012, 10:48:57 pm »
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Swords can also cut through metal armor with ease.  I learned that from Hollywood.  There is no reason to not use one!
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #181 on: March 07, 2012, 10:53:17 pm »
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IIRC Knights used Poleaxes and Halfswording when plate armour came into play.

Why mess around with a sword that bounces, When you can pierce through, or use the Axe as a hammer, or tackle your opponent to get him to the ground? Halfswording is a working technique but en-masse it's much easier to use something else.

Swords are overrated, overgloried stuff thanks to popular culture.

Massive swords are for the elite knights, spears are for the lowly peasants. Which weapon do you think most people would chose?

Sure, only nobles had rights to wear such weapons, but most of the time it was only a status symbol.
They picked something else for a fight, unless they had to fight peasants.

I'd pick something else than a sword if I'd have the fighting knowledge, against a fully plated opponent.
Just my 2cents though, that's what I think. Why all the trouble with a sword, if you can just whack somebody to death?

Swords can also cut through metal armor with ease.  I learned that from Hollywood.  There is no reason to not use one!

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #182 on: March 07, 2012, 10:55:47 pm »
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Swords are overrated, overgloried stuff thanks to popular culture.

Someone sounds like they have sword envy!  :twisted:
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #183 on: March 07, 2012, 10:56:52 pm »
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Someone sounds like they have sword envy!  :twisted:

I dislike swords in general, don't know why.
Maybe because they're too overused.  :P

Still, what I said there is at least somewhat true.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #184 on: March 07, 2012, 10:57:05 pm »
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Don't you halfsword with a two handed sword though Christo? meaning the sword is still an effective weapon against plate?
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #185 on: March 07, 2012, 10:57:56 pm »
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yeah definetly poleaxes > sword against plate armored opponent. Any day...
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #186 on: March 07, 2012, 10:59:21 pm »
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Don't you halfsword with a two handed sword though Christo? meaning the sword is still an effective weapon against plate?

I've mentioned that.

Still, fighting like that takes lots of practice, you need to aim for weaker points, while somebody with said Poleaxe could mess you up easily.

Not saying that swords are ineffective against armour like that, but that it takes more time and precision to do so.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #187 on: March 07, 2012, 11:08:59 pm »
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Let's face it guys, the majority don't know or really care if there were real "heroes" wielding spears.

Think of the word "Medieval" and the thing that will most likely pop up first in your head is a plate-wearing knight wielding the biggest sword around, perhaps mounted on-top of a warhorse with the background of a castle or some combination of it.

All I'm saying is, popular culture with the sword burnt into most people's mind is a contributing factor for great sword popularity. At least it did for me, back in the days. :P

Massive swords are for the elite knights, spears are for the lowly peasants. Which weapon do you think most people would chose?
Spears are fucking awesome, too bad they are portrayed so shitty in this game. Spear and shield is fucking awesome too, also portrayed badly in this game.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #188 on: March 07, 2012, 11:10:59 pm »
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Spear and shield is fucking awesome too, also portrayed badly in this game.

This.

Most used equipment together on the battlefield, for hundreds of years.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #189 on: March 07, 2012, 11:19:54 pm »
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Yes, and suddenly everyone was super interested. If you read Phyrex's post real carefully, he wasn't arguing it from a realism point of view. In fact, he said that the image is thanks to popular culture.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #190 on: March 07, 2012, 11:30:37 pm »
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only one true thing to do : buff goedendag

oh and buff the poor persion war axe...

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #191 on: March 07, 2012, 11:32:05 pm »
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Having played with many polearms, I believe the glaive is the most retarded one.

it has an insane range(160) compared to its damage(39 cut) and speed(90). If im not mistaken its the longest 4 directional swing polearm?
It also has nice fast animations and you can feintspam like a bitch while backpedalling!

but it also has it's cons, it gets stuck against walls and teammates, and that annoys the fucks out of me

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #192 on: March 07, 2012, 11:46:48 pm »
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Having played with many polearms, I believe the glaive is the most retarded one.

it has an insane range(160) compared to its damage(39 cut) and speed(90). If im not mistaken its the longest 4 directional swing polearm?
It also has nice fast animations and you can feintspam like a bitch while backpedalling!

but it also has it's cons, it gets stuck against walls and teammates, and that annoys the fucks out of me
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #193 on: March 07, 2012, 11:52:40 pm »
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Fauchard is fine, I'd say.

It has so low damage, I needed 2x the usual hits with my ps8 build against people.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #194 on: March 07, 2012, 11:56:50 pm »
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only one true thing to do : buff goedendag

You can buff ugly weapons and armor but that won't raise their popularity greatly.

Bar Mace was really popular before it lost CT but people used swords more than Bar Mace.