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Offline Logen

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #90 on: March 05, 2012, 09:07:35 pm »
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The solution to this problem is to buff GLA and nerf katana.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #91 on: March 05, 2012, 09:22:10 pm »
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You're right, you're right. Your wisdom Logen, what would I ever do without it? Or you for that matter.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #92 on: March 05, 2012, 09:26:30 pm »
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Well, we both could've relied on xant's wisdom. Oh wait...

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #93 on: March 05, 2012, 09:46:16 pm »
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #94 on: March 05, 2012, 09:55:53 pm »
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1h no shield is not awesome, specially not for battle where everyone is using the max range weapons.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #95 on: March 05, 2012, 10:06:22 pm »
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Didnt get to see your original post, but hope it was fun :P
I see what you mean, in a formation it works pretty well. I remember doing that about a year ago when I was in Acre and it worked, but generally in EU1 and others formations dont happen. I dont play much strategus so i dont know how things are there, maybe different.

BTW (dont like to doublepost): Archers deal only under 10% damage, and ranged in total (counting mounted) deal around 20% damage, less than 2hers alone and around the same as poles and 1her.
And within bows, rus and horn appear to be in a good place, but i think the long should be buffed, it is clear that it is scarcely used (more HAs than longbowmen ffs!!).

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #96 on: March 05, 2012, 10:07:47 pm »
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Then why using a one handed weapon if you don't use a shield and when you can have 2h/pole with longer reach / better damage...
Because using a 1 hander without shield is exquisite. And you can claim that you can beat people with one hand behind your back.

1h no shield is not awesome, specially not for battle where everyone is using the max range weapons.
I have been a 1 hander without a shield for quite some hours now and I must say I quite like it. The damage is reasonable, you move faster with a 1 hand so you can do a more str focused build. The range of the 102 length 1H should not be underestimated. You have the rightswing which has tremendous range. Outranges a lot of things and people underestimate the range. Weapon stun is quite an issue, but you slowly get used to it and doesnt fuck you over that much. Just puts you on the defensive.

And then you have the leftswing, oh the sweet leftswing. Headhitting is the rule with the leftswing, you can spam it quite a lot. Biggest advantage of 1hander is this lightning fast attack. Another advantage is that the weapons are quite cheap for their effectiveness, as you dont use an expensive shield. You can also sidestep and backpedal quite fast with a light 1h. 1h also handles great and people suck at blocking them.

Most of all though, you look like and are a badass with just a 1h. Swashbucklin like a baws.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #97 on: March 05, 2012, 10:10:51 pm »
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #98 on: March 05, 2012, 10:22:08 pm »
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The fuck, my mind is completely fucked from multiple directions.

Heavy lance damage on foot, the hell?
Yeah Man, get dehorsed and have no other weapon? Time to get lucky with it.

Why are there so many horse crossbowmen on NA, doesn't it suck equus africanus asinus dick?
Rohypnol. Him. Just him. He has caused a hug einflux of wannabe rohypnol xbow cav.

Why not the long twohanders NA? Although I knew this from the few times I've duelled on NA, only longswords and HBS.
We prefer to block one time, then be in range with ability to attack faster. Rather than get the first attack with a longer greatsword. Make sense?

Does NA actually know how to stab with 1h? So much long espadas.
Yes, we do know how to 1h stab, along with that a few tricks to it. Did you know you can double stab with 1hs? After they are hit by one attack, you can squeeze a thrust into their face before they can block (if you step correctly, perfect distance, turning into them). Also, in a feint series, if you switch from a left swing into a thrust but you are looking up and to the left, the weapon will be in the same position as a left swing, people will block to the right as you bend a thrust into their face. You're welcome eu.

How does one do damage with a siege shield?

The katana 3rd and 2nd, really didnt see that coming.

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Ontopic:

The great long axe isnt exactly a long polearm Thomek. Personally I bought a Danish too when I left ninja, hated it soon after cause whenever I picked up one of the other twohanders it felt like they were faster. I really think the Danish is slower than the German, like 1 speed point, and the Greatsword is more than just 1 speed point faster than the Danish.

There are all these subtle speed differences between the different 2h, in the end making the Greatsword the best one cause its really fast. I am not the only one who thinks this. The speedrating doesn't properly showcase the actual speed. Not sure how and why, but theres definitely  some inaccuracies there.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #99 on: March 05, 2012, 10:29:49 pm »
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you forgot about quickscythe, leshma. wait, is he...?
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #100 on: March 05, 2012, 10:35:33 pm »
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and would it be possible to know what percentage of those is from loomed/nonloomed weapons?
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #101 on: March 05, 2012, 10:40:09 pm »
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When are those stats taken from?
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #102 on: March 05, 2012, 11:24:11 pm »
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #103 on: March 05, 2012, 11:40:28 pm »
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Thomek and his lobbying threads :shock:... If you were thinking about buffing katana you failed this time :D. You are good admin, but I can't stop being amazed by your ability to get people dividing in two groups and arguing about game balance... No one ever sees it coming... Well played ninja.. Well played...
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #104 on: March 05, 2012, 11:41:32 pm »
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Thomek and his lobbying threads :shock:... If you were thinking about buffing katana you failed this time :D. You are good admin, but I can't stop being amazed by your ability to get people dividing in two groups and arguing about game balance... No one ever sees it coming... Well played ninja.. Well played...

Why Thomek doesn't lobby at all dear SoO, where did you get that impression?