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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #75 on: March 05, 2012, 05:41:09 pm »
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How does one do damage with a siege shield?

I killed somebody with a ladder before, I kind of threw it at him and a little headshot symbol appeared with him dead and me as the killer

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2012, 05:45:16 pm »
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twice as much throwing on NA hehe, we love our pew pew pew.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #77 on: March 05, 2012, 05:48:23 pm »
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I killed somebody with a ladder before, I kind of threw it at him and a little headshot symbol appeared with him dead and me as the killer

if you deployed it could have glitched or been destroyed and sent the person on the ladder flying.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #78 on: March 05, 2012, 07:04:28 pm »
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Both of us were on level ground, when I had a ladder and a ranged person tried to shoot me, I always threw it at them in response [in hopes of hiding behind it]. It also fell on his head.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #79 on: March 05, 2012, 07:09:03 pm »
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Because of the low throwing speed ladders gain a LOT relative damage bonus from gravity. They also can't be set to 0 base damage because of a bug.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #80 on: March 05, 2012, 07:11:01 pm »
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Because of the low throwing speed ladders gain a LOT relative damage bonus from gravity. They also can't be set to 0 base damage because of a bug.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #81 on: March 05, 2012, 07:24:24 pm »
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Hmm those statistics need one thing more... Horse bump damages :lol:. I would like to know what horse makes most bump damage on the servers. I bet it's destrier....
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #82 on: March 05, 2012, 07:32:31 pm »
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The solution to this problem is to buff GLA and nerf DGS.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #83 on: March 05, 2012, 07:35:15 pm »
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I don't think those weapons need nerfs, and infact I find a lot of the shorter weapons superior to those gigantic danishes (danish is one of my least favorite weapons, I can use the other greatswords fine, but I just can't seem to learn the danish) and german GS', I love my throwing lance in melee more than my poleaxe (but you can still buff my throwing lance, DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :mrgreen: ), my twohander build "NCB" uses a morningstar and sucks with it, but that's only 'cause I suck and haven't gotten good enough with that weapon yet, my archer build uses a langes messer (spelling?) instead of the gay mace. I love the langes messer, the morning star is a great deal of fun and I'm sure I'll become ok with it in time, and I'd outright marry my throwing lance if I could :p
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #84 on: March 05, 2012, 08:07:12 pm »
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One handers last used melee weapons, not really a big surprise but still this should be the class dominating the battlefield with ranged having them as side weapon...
This can be easily understood, pure melee class prefers 2h and pole because using a shield is really a pain in the ass in this game and you can actually do much better without it. Shield don't protect you that much about ranged like they should and they slow you down too much in clusterfuck melee blob while they should give you an advantage in this kind of situation.
Then why using a one handed weapon if you don't use a shield and when you can have 2h/pole with longer reach / better damage...
You got it, no point using one handed weapon since combined with a shield it sucks and without shield you can have much better weapon in other class.


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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #85 on: March 05, 2012, 08:23:24 pm »
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I did a stf 1h noshield and it was awesome O.o

1h have enough stuff going for then for them being a viable choice imo.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #86 on: March 05, 2012, 08:24:19 pm »
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Kan - not 100% true about 1h/shield.  I'm better with 1h/shield as it blocks me from ranged.  Also in strategus shields are crucial (so if you are using teamwork, they are also crucial in public servers).
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #87 on: March 05, 2012, 08:29:32 pm »
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having a shield is amazing in big clusterfucks, I can't count the number of times I've just pushed my way through a chokepoint and broken a line.

manual blocking is great against single targets, but the best manual blocker in the world won't be able to block a pike thrust and a left swing at the same time... unless they are blocking with a shield.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #88 on: March 05, 2012, 08:44:32 pm »
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Thats all very well, until one of the people around you thinks and decides to strike you in the back...

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #89 on: March 05, 2012, 08:46:47 pm »
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Thats all very well, until one of the people around you thinks and decides to strike you in the back...

E: I misread your response originally.

Well if you push through their line then they are forced to either a) stay where they are facing and get hit in the back by me or b) turn to face me and deal with the rest of my team hitting them in the back.

I might die but being quick with turning the shield to face incoming attacks can absorb most blows, and in the meantime their formation is completely broken up.  If my team doesn't follow then ofc I'm fucked but running in with a shield and forcing them to turn/break up formation works a surprising amount of the time.  It's almost impossible to pull this off as well without a shield.
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