Fallen Diplomacy

[Kreczor]

I'm sorry - Kreczor messaged us to try and establish a more amicable dimplomatic contact.  I therefore assumed he had the right to speak on your behalf and merely attempted to move on from this debacle.  Clearly I was wrong.

You really didn't read any of the pms I sent you did you. You clearly misinterpreted me as I intended to merc for you as a PLAYER. Here, let me quote my original message:

This pm in no ways represents the views of the green alliance including every faction that represents it. It represents the views and opinions of LLJK_Kreczor and LLJK_Kreczor alone. I'm hoping we can come to terms.

You once again have spun words in an attempt to destroy lljk from within. What don't you understand? It will never work.

[Casimir]

Makes alliance with "Evil" clan, gets surprised when betrayed.

[okiN]

Makes alliance with "Evil" clan, gets surprised when betrayed.

Must... refrain... from... snide... remark...

[Casimir]

Give in to temptation, do it.

[Tears of Destiny]

Give in to temptation, do it.

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[LastKaze]

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Very interesting thread...

[Mannhammer]

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[RibaldRon]

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Very interesting thread...

OH MY GOD IS THAT A KITTEN IN A TOILET PAPER ROLL!!!!?!!?!?!

[moorane]

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That's my opinion...

[Malaclypse]

Fallen Diplomacy

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[Goretooth]

idk so what, you let FCC get shit on so hard they rage quit even though you were "just about to help" thing is you didn't, i was there in the big raid battle that cost them so much gear, it was afternoon EU time and the enemy was stacked with EU fighters, unsurprisingly not a single fallen was there for them to be seen, when they needed help teh most, maybe if you guys actually merced for them they wouldn't of rage quitted en masse, too bad you indirectly cost us one of the most well liked clans in crpg

honestly besides you getting stomped on at the very start (for perfectly justifiable reasons) you were a total non factor in strat 3.0 so of course you didn't have the chance to fuck over too many people

but strat 2.0 was an absolute nightmare in dealing with you people and thats where the great majority of my complaints, are, things that so far have been hand waved or totally ignored.  honestly it was so damaging that i don't really give a shit who is in charge or what who says what, i don't even know who you are tomas.  my relations with fallen this strat have been 0, no one has talked to LLJK at all, you blame me for bad diplomacy when every clan in a row asked me "did tears talk to you guys yet about new leadership?"  when in reality tears removed me from his friends list months before because he tried to get my admin removed shitting up thread after thread about me and stopped talking to me completely, making me dislike him as an individual and further tarnishing your clans reputation.  what do you expect when you have zero communications with the largest NA clan that is the center of the territory, and the person you put in charge of getting the "fallen message" to new clans is someone who cannot resist trying to sully my name in the community due to his own paranoid, autistic, obsessed reasons.

thing is you can ask anyone in chaos or tkov or any of those clans, for the past ~2 months i've said i don't care about fallen, you guys can do whatever you want in strat and i won't raid you people or give you trouble, i just troll a bunch because of how shitty you were to deal with when fallen was actually in a position to play strat in 2.0, and the terrible things tears has done to me and many of my friends in this community, for pretty much no reason besides his own ego.  no one else in fallen was willing to talk to me so i made sure to tell coy to let you guys know most of what i say is trolling and i'd welcome you guys playing strat, but i mean you really should be helping the people who gave you a place to stay in some way.  but i guess helping other clans isn't very fallen of you.

now that you are going forward and saying that you will basically openly plot against whoever you want i figured i would just post my side of things, since once again no one in fallen has ever manned up to deal with me directly, so i have no reason to assume you people as anything but hostile.  i was told i wasn't welcome in the fallen IRC, i really can't be bothered to ever be civil with tears, coy tried sending you people messages for me that seemingly got ignored so she doesn't care anymore either.  I actually went out of my way in strat 3.0 to protect fallen once if you remember.  Goretooth went, without orders, to attack a fallen fief along with BADPLAYER, two of the biggest fallen haters in our faction.  You guys were weak at the time, and would've lost.  What I did, because i actually honor agreements, I removed them from teh faction temporarily, then placed them at much lower rank, and unhired everyone, and let all the troops and stuff die, pretty sure giving you the gear as well.  Yet I am still the asshole, right?

Yes

[Lordark]

You are weak green member that clan cannot face another 1 on 1 that is why you must all go same color because you are weak putos.

[ArysOakheart]

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[Torben]

is all this crap for real or are people roleplaying that they care about strat?

[Smoothrich]

if you've ever been a diplomat or a leader/some sort of organizer for a strategus faction, the amount of BS you have to put up with is unbelievable.

the diplomacy metagame is like a bunch of 12 year old socially incapable spergs trying to reenact their favorite scenes from Game of Thrones.

the best part is the battles but your clan just gets wiped out immediately by some scrub alliance if you don't waste a few minutes of your life every couple days small talking with other clan leaders/diplomats and working out deals for the sake of your players.  or if European, your clan gets wiped out immediately if you forgot to join the UIF or have half the dev team in your clan, sorry EU community.

when some people are unusually awful at communicating with other people, it makes you not want to help them out in strat, or go out of your way to pick fights with them, since we usually don't start strat wars with people we like talking to and playing games with.

i certainly posted way too much in this thread but i just wanted to compile the ways fallen have failed at this part of the game and there was just so much i had to write everything i could recall, lol.  i'm sure there's been many, many more.  a new one even came out in this very thread, with tears backstabbing HATE.  its just funny is all.