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Offline Auphilia

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Wakizashi
« on: February 28, 2012, 06:07:33 pm »
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Nordic Short Sword: Costs 2,334.
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Wakizashi: Costs 7,554.
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LOL wut? Nordic Short Sword beats the Wakizashi in EVERY single way, besides 1 measly speed point.


Quit taxing the weaboos, and make the game fair please. We already play with gimped weapons and armor and give you all easy kills, why are you going to charge us for it too? x.X

I know you want all Japanese gear out of the game, and that is fine. Take it out, or make it fair.

That is all I'm asking.

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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 06:08:57 pm »
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Nordic Short Sword: Costs 2,334.
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Wakizashi: Costs 7,554.
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LOL wut? Nordic Short Sword beats the Wakizashi in EVERY single way, besides 1 measly speed point.


Quit taxing the weaboos, and make the game fair please. We already play with gimped weapons and armor and give you all easy kills, why are you going to charge us for it too? x.X

I know you want all Japanese gear out of the game, and that is fine. Take it out, or make it fair.

That is all I'm asking.

No.

You wanna be a weaboo? You pay for it! Style has it's cost you know.
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 06:09:11 pm »
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yep 1 speed costs you 5k deal with it.
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 06:27:55 pm »
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Good maybe this will put an end to the samurais on the battlefield
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 06:37:02 pm »
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Nobleman Outfit
weight: 0.7
body armor: 8
leg armor: 6
Gold Cost: 3018

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Light Strange Armor
weight: 6.9
body armor: 30
leg armor: 11
difficulty: 8
Gold Cost: 2589

I'd say you have it easy compared to all those guys who are trying to roleplay as nobles in game.
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 06:38:42 pm »
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you gotta pay more for paper armor if you want to be "unique" or roleplay nobleman. and thats gooood
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2012, 06:49:36 pm »
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Don't even start with that lol. I was the FIRST person to complain about the increase in prices for the "noble" clothes. All that did was even further minimize variety in the game, as no one is going to pay 300% more just to wear a colorful shirt...

That was one of the reasons I stopped RPing a noble lol. I agree that that change was wrong too.

HOWEVER, that has nothing to do with this topic.

With all of this logic, the long dagger, scottish sword, and italian weapons look a lot more "fancy" than a wakizashi...

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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 06:52:09 pm »
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get gold and stop whining
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 07:02:43 pm »
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The Flamberge is fancy, too. Too fancy, in fact. Therefore I propose a nerf. It only makes sense, after all. Style is very costly.

Here are my proposed stats for the Flamberge:

Flamberge
weapon length: 152
weight: 1
difficulty: 30
speed rating: 85
thrust damage: 20 pierce
swing damage: 36 cut
slots: 4
Can't use on horseback
Can't sheath
Unbalanced

Of course it would also only attack with stabs and overheads. Side swinging with such a nice looking sword would be *far* too fancy. Seems reasonable to me.

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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 07:46:15 pm »
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It is well balanced if you think about weeaboo upkeep (the usual weeaboo- like armors are shit cheap etc...) Shut your mouth and pay!
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 08:50:35 pm »
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Just make it 0 slots or something.

YES.

Please, thats such a good idea.

I mean for real, it would actually give the wakizashi some kind of role except for the looks.
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 09:47:53 pm »
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Make wakizashi 0 slot, see every archer dropping their handaxe / hatchet and using it.
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 12:38:44 am »
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Make wakizashi 0 slot, see every archer dropping their handaxe / hatchet and using it.

Hand Axe
weapon length: 48
weight: 1
speed rating: 103
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 28 cut
slots: 0
Bonus against Shield
1,010 gold

Wakizashi
weapon length: 70
weight: 1
difficulty: 4
speed rating: 104
thrust damage: 21 pierce
swing damage: 28 cut
slots: 1
7,554 gold

Do you really think 22 length, 1 speed, and a useless stab are *really* worth 6.5k, all the repair costs that come with it (archers naturally have a low 1h wpf due to the bulk of their wpf going into archery), and a bonus against shield? I'll admit that the length sounds substantial, but it's only about the same difference between the Steel Pick and Grosse Messer. I can't tell the difference in speed, honestly, and the stab will only get a Waki user killed with glancing.

Even if it is worth it, as of right now there's not much of a reason not to take the Waki at any time for any playstyle over... oh, say, the Short Falchion.

Short Falchion
weapon length: 61
weight: 1
difficulty: 4
speed rating: 104
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 30 cut
slots: 1
1,229 gold

No stab, 9 less length, but hey! There's more cut damage and it's cheaper!

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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 01:46:29 am »
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As it stands its crappy, but i don't know if 0 slot is the way forward for it.

I like it being crappy, makes it more funny if you get a kill with it. :P
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Re: Wakizashi
« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2012, 05:57:07 am »
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I say make it cheaper and/or zero slot it.

There really is absolutely no fair reason for it being the price and stats it is now.

I'd rather see it nerfed a bit and zero slotted/cheaper, than have it the way it is now.

I'd be perfectly fine if it was identical to the Nordic Short Sword except less pierce, length, AND cheaper.