Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword

[dodnet]

Not an EU-problem, no one uses Bec here. And 2h outreach a lot of polearms, even longer ones.

[The_Bloody_Nine]

Now you're being a little too kind I think 

german english fail. I meant argue, does argumenting mean something? Probably not.

[Gurnisson]

The reason people want to sell their greatswords is because there are so many of them loomed that their value has become quite low.

This. Since the danish is one of the best melee weapons in the game it's been heirloomed by so many people that the amount of heirloomed danish greatswords flowing the market became quite insane. Due to it's popularity it's price has fallen, since you have so many options of getting it. Rare and good weapons = Expensive. Very common and good weapons = Cheaper. It's just common sense that people won't pay over the top for the danish. Also, with the amount of people having heirloomed danishes it's perfectly reasonable that a lot wants to trade it away. Out of the amount of danish users it's only a very small percentage that has a danish on the market for something else.

Also, I haven't seen a Bec on EU for the last couple of months. Clearly OP and FotM.

I'll check the length of Bec, Longsword and Danish according to this man: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25086.0.html

Bec
120 Stab
135 Overhead
143 Right
135 Left

Danish
189 Stab (+69)
169 Overhead (+34)
154 Right (+11)
154 Left (+19)

Longsword
171 stab (+51)
151 Overhead (+16)
136 Right (-7)
136 Left (+1)

[Dezilagel]

german english fail. I meant argue, does argumenting mean something? Probably not.

Nono, it's just that arguing with someone implies that they're doing some arguing as well... And calling what this guy is doing "arguing" is stretching it imo 

T'was a joke

[The_Bloody_Nine]

Nono, it's just that arguing with someone implies that they're doing some arguing as well... And calling what this guy is doing "arguing" is stretching it imo 

T'was a joke

double fail then , it seemed such a fail word bolded.

[PanPan]

lol

(Semtex)

[Leshma]

better yet, lets get a look at the offers for the Danish

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If a product is good, demand will show it.
If a product is shit, supply will be high as people try to sell or trade out.

Now, we've seen the entire legit spectrum of supply and demand of the Danish Greatsword.

Of the four people looking for a Masterwork Danish, 2 are offering ridiculously low bids compared to todays market prices for your average MW weapon (especially considering the unloomed Danish isn't cheap).  The other 2 are trading up from the Danish's little German brother, but are still expecting to be compensated by at least 50,000 gold.

You don't need a Master's Degree in business to figure out this product is shit that nobody wants.
You just need a brain with a little common sense and basic intelligence.

This guy is obviously trolling us because this picture is fake. You could figure that out easily looking at his previous post containing pictures but I know this for a fact because today I bought Miaodao for 1.2 million and second one was 1.3 million...

Bad paint skills bro, try harder.

Hint: That offer MW Danish + 10K Gold for MW German is gone as well

[Leshma]

Every bit of evidence I've shown has all pointed toward the fact that nobody really wants a MW Danish Greatsword.

It's not that no one wants Danish GS because it's a bad sword. No one really wants Danish because almost every 2H player already have one lol. I'm pretty sure MW Danish GS is the most common heirloomed item in game.

I've exchanged mine for MW German today, not because it's better than Danish GS. Never liked German GS really, regular model texture looks so fugly imho but Final Boss changed that and MW version of German GS looks beautiful compared to MW Danish GS which is just meh. That's the main reason why I traded it.

[Leshma]

3rd post in a row and completely off-topic:

Paul, please stop lurking.

[Paul]

Sorry to interrupt your QUAD POST attempt but..
STATISTIC TIEM!!1

On EU1 Battle 0.37% of overall kills damage are done by the Bec and 5.60% by the Danish. EU2 Siege has 0.95% Bec and 5.78% Danish kills damage. Data used is about 1 month old and clearly shows that EU metagame sucks.

[Torben]

what dezi and gurnisson said. furthermore, the bec is one of the lowest trading polearms out there.

in NA you have a few good bec users because of your black monster and his copycats,  but seriously,  if someone spends enough time with one weapon he can become great with most of them.

all that being said,  i do think the bec is an awesome weapon.  i just see better alternatives.

[[ptx]]

Sorry to interrupt your QUAD POST attempt but..
STATISTIC TIEM!!1

On EU1 Battle 0.37% of overall kills are done by the Bec and 5.60% by the Danish. EU2 Siege has 0.95% Bec and 5.78% Danish kills. Data used is about 1 month old and clearly shows that EU metagame sucks.

Just out of interest - how many % of kills are done by the German GS?

[PanPan]

Just out of interest - how many % of kills are done by the German GS?

more than 50%

[Paul]

Just out of interest - how many % of kills are done by the German GS?

For battle it's 4.44% and for siege 2.79%. Both are the top two 2handers. Oh, and it's damage and not kills. Forgot about that.

[[ptx]]

So, we can assume it is somewhat similar on other battle and siege servers, whilst probably being quite a bit higher on the few melee-only servers.

That is two weapons accounting for ~10% of all damage dealt. Am i the only one seeing something wrong in this?