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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2012, 11:39:12 am »
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better yet, lets get a look at the offers for the Danish

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If a product is good, demand will show it.
If a product is shit, supply will be high as people try to sell or trade out.

Now, we've seen the entire legit spectrum of supply and demand of the Danish Greatsword.

Of the four people looking for a Masterwork Danish, 2 are offering ridiculously low bids compared to todays market prices for your average MW weapon (especially considering the unloomed Danish isn't cheap).  The other 2 are trading up from the Danish's little German brother, but are still expecting to be compensated by at least 50,000 gold.

You don't need a Master's Degree in business to figure out this product is shit that nobody wants.
You just need a brain with a little common sense and basic intelligence.
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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2012, 11:41:36 am »
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So, how exactly did you figure it out, then? :rolleyes:

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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2012, 11:46:09 am »
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Lol wut, supply and demand has nothing to do with the product being good or not.
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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2012, 11:55:14 am »
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No, dismissing massive free market evidence that runs blatantly contradictory to your entire argument is purposeful ignorance.
Every bit of evidence I've shown has all pointed toward the fact that nobody really wants a MW Danish Greatsword.

You can call it "retarded" all day long, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.

The proof is in the pudding.

The Market does not lie.  At least not with numbers like that.
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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2012, 11:58:12 am »
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Lol wut, supply and demand has nothing to do with the product being good or not.

If a dozen people are looking to trade or sell a particular item and nobody is really looking to acquire the same said item, what do you think that means? Honestly?

Is that just coincidence to you?
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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2012, 12:03:36 pm »
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So, how exactly did you figure it out, then? :rolleyes:

To be quite honest, I have a master's degree in business administration.

But like I said, all you need is some common coupled with the view of those pictures I posted of the market.
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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2012, 12:05:25 pm »
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People believe what they believe. The Bec is alright, but in no way superior to top tier 2 handers.  'The market' is no indication what so ever to of it being unbalanced or OP. It's just flavor of the month, cookie-cutter standard stuff.
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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2012, 12:13:16 pm »
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master's degree in business administration.

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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2012, 12:14:21 pm »
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I fail to see the connection between people selling the danish over people wanting the "overpowered" bec.

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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2012, 12:15:38 pm »
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People have been trying to sell their Danish's for months now, and the market continues to saturate.  This isn't a fluke or a sudden new fad sweeping the nation.
People "believe what they believe" because they test the weapon out or realize by looking at statistics and their repair bills that the weapon is in fact, overpriced and not worth it.

A masterwork loom is a month or two investmen.  People don't just accidentally fall into it one day.  It's a cold, calculated, methodical process.
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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2012, 12:18:41 pm »
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To be quite honest,  I have a master's degree in business administration.

But like I said, all you need is some common coupled with the view of those pictures I posted of the market.
:D I love it when prejudices get confirmed.

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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2012, 12:18:54 pm »
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I'd really love to see some hard counter evidence that isn't just "nuh uh" or "well, thats just your opinion, man" but I don't believe that will be happening tonight.
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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2012, 12:29:01 pm »
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The reason people want to sell their greatswords is because there are so many of them loomed that their value has become quite low.

Nowadays most people are quite content with their looms and are either trying to make money off the market or are looking for *interesting* looms to try out. The Danish fails in both those aspect since it's a. probably the most common loom, and b. holds a low value, due to its abundance. With a masters in business administration (yes, I'm still kind of giggling) you should understand the basic principles of supply and demand no?

A lot of the greatsword looms come from the time before the market feature. No one in their right mind would loom a greatsword or even a weapon right now except for personal use and therefore I'm not surprised at all to see a lot of greatswords being offered up on the market.

tl:dr Greatswords are not bad weapons in the game, but they're horrible on the market due to their abundance.
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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2012, 12:31:11 pm »
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I'd really love to see some hard counter evidence that isn't just "nuh uh" or "well, thats just your opinion, man" but I don't believe that will be happening tonight.
In your first post you say something about superior weapon length from bec, you got a very polite and informative answer trying to explain how length is not length in this game. Your answer is: "I use a longsword which has a length of 106 and the bec definitely outranges it. I know from experience" Then you start some crazy-ass argumention to proof the UP-ness of Danish by the demand of MW Danishs on marketplace! And the list goes on.

It just doesn't seem worth the effort argumenting with you.

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Re: Enough is Enough... Nerf The Bec De Corbin or Buff the Danish Greatsword
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2012, 12:32:48 pm »
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It just doesn't seem worth the effort argumenting with you.

Now you're being a little too kind I think  :wink:
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