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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2011, 09:20:41 am »
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I'd say reduce the speed of the sidesword to 100. It IS the most expensive onehander.

And btw, the remaining 1handers aren't shit at all, try fighting with a regular sword or soldiers cleaver to get you down to the ground. This servers a good challenge and makes you love the higher end swords :D (When you get to use them ofc)

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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2011, 11:44:42 am »
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And don't forget - what Sidesword have a thrust attack (thrust damage 26 pierce) while Elite Scimitar - doesn't (thrust damage 0 pierce).
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2011, 11:50:37 am »
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Elite scimitar is 5 points longer.

Scimitar speed 101
Niuweidao speed 101
Liuyedao speed 102

Side sword speed 101, there is no way side sword is faster than other swords  :rolleyes:
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2011, 12:22:36 pm »
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Elite scimitar is 5 points longer.

Scimitar speed 101
Niuweidao speed 101
Liuyedao speed 102

Side sword speed 101, there is no way side sword is faster than other swords  :rolleyes:

How about you stop comparing only the bits of the swords, but the whole of them. Scimitar - no stab, niuweidao - shorter, less dmg, no stab, liuyedao - shorter, less damage, no stab. The other weapons have some kind of trade off for their speed, side sword on the other hand, is the ultimate sword. I honestly don't care if it's get nerfed, it's just sad that there is no competition in 1h swords.

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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2011, 12:28:02 pm »
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How about you stop comparing only the bits of the swords, but the whole of them. Scimitar - no stab
But longer

, niuweidao - shorter, less dmg, no stab,

No, more damage.

liuyedao - shorter, less damage, no stab.
But faster!
The other weapons have some kind of trade off for their speed, side sword on the other hand, is the ultimate sword. I honestly don't care if it's get nerfed, it's just sad that there is no competition in 1h swords.

Side sword has medium range for 1h and good but far not not best damage, its more like a scimitar with stab abiliity.
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2011, 12:29:47 pm »
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It needs to lose a bit of speed.
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2011, 12:38:15 pm »
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Reduce speed to 100 and reduce damage to 30c, up thrust to 26p. It's not great at cutting considering it's so flimsy (it's less broad than italian sword).

Also, reduce it's price, it's not meant to be top of the line.

And yes, i use Side Sword.
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2011, 12:49:10 pm »
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Side sword is further development of arming sword!
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2011, 12:51:45 pm »
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Side sword is further development of arming sword!

:facepalm:

And that is an argument for?
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2011, 12:55:47 pm »
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:facepalm:

And that is an argument for?

Top of the line is ok since its further development of older style swords.

Better steel/iron work allowed at the end of medieval ages to make stronger and lighter swords, side sword.
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2011, 12:59:11 pm »
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Atm sidesword is the jack of all trades with no weaknesses unlike other swords.

Has the speed, length and cut damage of a scimitar and thrusting power of the italian sword... Fast weapons are shorter NOT longer 101 speed on a 95 length sword is stupid. Even espada eslavona is better balanced 100 speed 90 length but only 26 cut, it's a good thrusting weapon the side sword is good in everything.

Think about that.

Btw just because it costs the most doesn't mean it must be the best in every aspect :)

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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2011, 12:59:58 pm »
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Tbh Long Espada Eslavona is pretty strong too - uber stab, uber range, decent swing

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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2011, 01:01:08 pm »
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Top of the line is ok since its further development of older style swords.

4 more speed then arming swords and both better cut (how?) and better stab damage? Seriously?
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2011, 01:01:32 pm »
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Side sword is further development of arming sword!

Nope, that is italian sword. Side sword is offshot.
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Re: Reasonable Side Sword Nerf
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2011, 01:16:07 pm »
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Espada Eslavona is pretty good for thrusts, but don't count on it for side swings on heavy armored enemies, for instance at 7 power strike I whiff alot with it on banded armor and +. With thrusts, aim for the face and it's one shot.