Reasonable Side Sword Nerf

[ManOfWar]

Well the side sword is a wee bit fast,

Due to this inarguable fact, what shall the speed be decreased too? 99? 100?

I am unsure what a proper speed would be.

Any suggestions?

Edit- I am a one hander and I use the side sword, I do not use a Masterwork mine is Tempered, I made this thread because I have heard complaints and I just want to make sure it does not get nerfed to hell

[Tai Feng]

There's nothing wrong with the stats since that sword is from the future.

[bruce]

There's nothing wrong with the stats since that sword is from the future.

The year 5000?

[NuberT]

There's nothing wrong with the stats since that sword is from the future.

Yeah just remove the sword, as it just doesnt fit the time period..

[BaleOhay]

It is the most expensive 1 hand sword to carry I think it is fine the way it is now.

[bruce]

It is the most expensive 1 hand sword to carry I think it is fine the way it is now.

Reduce the price then? That sword is just stupid.

[ManOfWar]

Hey do not remove it! This sword is my baby!

[Karmazyn]

Stop trolling side sword is same fast as scimitar (and is shorter!) and sabres, slower then katana and make less damage.

[WaltF4]

Well the side sword is a wee bit fast,

Due to this inarguable fact, what shall the speed be decreased too? 99? 100?

My calculations place the change in attack speed due to 1 weapons speed as being equivalent to ~18 proficiency for a weapon with ~100 speed. You cool with attacking as fast as you did 20 or 40 proficiency ago?

As an aside, all masterwork weapons are pretty over powered to begin with. They effectively give you 2 free ranks of power strike and let you attack as quickly as if you had 20 to 40 more proficiency than you actually do. So if your side sword is masterworked, which I think I remember you saying, it being stupidly fast is not unexpected.

[Devilize]

you tripple heirloomed your sidesword war? you son of a bitch!

[ManOfWar]

you tripple heirloomed your sidesword war? you son of a bitch!

What no! I am still using tempered, I did not want to be super cheap

[Devilize]

oh. ok. *shoo* good thing. Was going to ban you for all NA servers for a second there. good thing we got that cleared up.

[Gorath]

Stop trolling side sword is same fast as scimitar (and is shorter!) and sabres, slower then katana and make less damage.

If you have to compare a weapon to 3 or more other weapons combined in order to make it seem balanced, it's a bit too buff.   

Anyways, I think it's fine it's just that all the other 1h swords are pretty shitty in comparison which is why everyone and their brother is using the side sword, scimitar or long espanada (and a huscarl for the same reason with shields, it's the only one that isn't shitty) with the occasional sprinkle of something else here and there.  I'm fine if it gets left as it is.  I'll keep using my machete (military cleaver) even if I do sigh longingly at the stats of the side katana.

[Spawny]

Mine is nearly masterworked. 103 speed seems a bit much.

But then again, you only truly benefit from that when you put your shield away, which makes you as fast as 2h's (or slightly faster) but with less damage/reach.

[Konrax]

I think sidesword is a bit fast too especially since elite scimitar is only 99 speed.

Elite Scimitar
weight 1.25
requirement 7
spd rtng 99
weapon length 100
swing damage 31, cut
thrust damage 0 pierce

Side sword
weight 1.3
requirement 8
spd rtng 101
weapon length 95
swing damage 32, cut
thrust damage 26 pierce