Do people use a Great Lance?

[Lt_Anders]

I've got a question.

Do you actually need Polearm wpf to use the Great Lance ?

That could be a major pro about it. Using the great lance with 1 wpf and then having a lot of 1 handed for when dismounted.

Nope. It's couch only so prof doesn't matter. But it is a horrible weapon cause it can only be used circumstantially.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

The upkeep argument is mostly pointless. I use a bunch of expensive poop because I have an excess of money. Not enough for a loom, but enough to be able to cost through 2-3 gens of high end crap.

[Mizuk]

I only ever used light lance and I think it's the best lance there is if you're skilled enough, but shh this is my secret, I don't want everyone to start using it.

[whitepaladin]

I only ever used lance and I think it's the best lance there is if you're skilled enough, but shh this is my secret, I don't want everyone to start using it.

[Lt_Anders]

Lance is awesome!

[Ryke]

Great Lance: Do buff.

Seriously though, this lance needs to be looked at. As it is now there is no reason to use the GL unless you enjoy the look of it.  It is far too short for a couch only weapon, we have huge ass pikes now. Why not make a couch only lance that is just a bit longer?  Nothing like the LoC, but a middle ground...

I doubt this will be addressed though, too many cav haters out there.  I guess the heavy lance will remain supreme lance.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

It should be 265 long. The Long Spear will still get its poke in most of the time. Pikes will slap you down. Not to mention that all you need to do is get wider then the couch arc and poke and you will win that fight.

[Lech]

Then it should have a proper angle freedom. And all horses should have *1,2 maneuver from current levels.

and deal half damage, fine.

[Apostata]

Both jousting and great lance are fine. They are great at picking elite targets as Atze and stuff.

[CrazyCracka420]

Heavy lances only out-thrust great lances if you come in at the right angle and if your timing is basically perfect.  Great lances seem like they have some good uses, but not being able to thrust is why most people don't use it.  If you get another cavalry behind you, you can't do anything except drop it and use a sidearm.

[vinnytk]

Heavy lances only out-thrust great lances if you come in at the right angle and if your timing is basically perfect.  Great lances seem like they have some good uses, but not being able to thrust is why most people don't use it.  If you get another cavalry behind you, you can't do anything except drop it and use a sidearm.

Nope, as long as the HL times it right (which isn't hard) it should out range the GL most of the time.  Only exception is if the GL guy is attacking from the left side and the HL user is attacking across his body.

Anyways, I've made this thread 2 or 3 times in the balance forum and the HL is still shit.

[isatis]

Gl is awesome! it'S the only lance (with double sided) that I don't feel bad using couch!

[Vexus]

I said it several times in lance threads.

Remove couch from normal lances and leave it only on the jousting and great lance.

[SirProto]

Remove couch from normal lances and leave it only on the jousting and great lance.

this

and the heavy lance can outrange the great lance as the thrust animation gives it +50 length added to it's 190 which gives the thrust attack a total of 240 length whereas the great lances couch is left with only 230

This paired with the fact most cav use the heavy lance means the great lance is kind of useless at the moment

[Riddaren]

What about removing the couch cooldown?
That would make it viable.

Either that or increase the range a lot.