Ironflesh

[Xant]

I think it will be too OP then? :l

But it'd be more useful? 

[Polobow]

But it'd be more useful? 

Hmmm...

For heavy armor wearing people, IF is good now. For light and medium armor, it isn't. Maybe make it % biased? I don't know.

[Engine]

Sad, that ironflesh is now the read-headed stepchild of anyone who puts points in more than 3 skills.

[Kafein]

truth = (IF == useless) ? "IF is useless" : throw std::runtime_error("Oops");

Since you won't wear enough armor to make it valuable without losing money, go for other skills.

[Gorath]

It's a dump skill imo.

On a few of my builds I end up with a random 3 points left over.  The options?

1)  Put them in shield and carry one on my 2her/PA for advancing?
2)  Put them in riding and ride a rouncey for lulz at a really slow pace?
3)  Convert 2 into 1 stat and then have 1 left over skill without reaching the magical divisible by 3 threshold?
4)  Put them into IF for an extra 6hp?

Usually I just put them in IF.  Sure it's a waste since I don't wear heavy armor, but it's a waste with the other options as well and fuck it, maybe I'll take one more hit from the wall of ranged bullshit that goes on (or another horse bump).

[Wallace]

12 IF
36 Str
Lordly Transitional
Watch the AGI chars take 10 hits to kill you
Profit?

[Nemeth]

I just recently realized (yesterday, to be exact), that while IF is not gonna save you in light armor when meleeing, it can seriously annoy ranged guys. I'm used to one shot leather wearing guys with my crossbow at medium range, and when Siiem and Pericles both survived body shots while wearing armor that costs less than 1600, I started to looking at IF a whole lot differently.

[Xant]

I don't see why IF wouldn't save you in light armor when meleeing. I've survived many times from blows that would've killed me if I didn't have IF.

[Nemeth]

Well, I take it as most of the times you will die in two hits tops when in light armor, regardless of IF. When I had IF on my past builds, I did survive some situations I otherwise wouldn't have, but now when I have no IF, I don't see any big difference.

[Captain_Georges]

grab 6-7 IF, grab some plate and enjoy the fun

[Thtb]

grab 6-7 IF, grab some plate and enjoy the fun

Of surviving one/two more hits?

Do a little math, if someone spends his points in power strike and the other in IF, who wins?

[Xant]

Yeah, because you can't *gasp* take both!

[Thtb]

Your attention span slipped again? No one said you can't take both, this is barley close to the topic...

If you'd spend as much time showing up on the duel server for the duel YOU asked for, as you spend flaming on the forum... *sighs*

[Chris_P_Bacon]

My IF 6 is basically what keeps me alive whenever I run around naked. I can almost always survive the first melee hit, aside from ridiculously strong characters, and I can usually take 2 arrows or 1 throwing item.

[Brutal]

I don't see why IF wouldn't save you in light armor when meleeing. I've survived many times from blows that would've killed me if I didn't have IF.

Because when a majority of people say somethings over and over it becomes the truth in their reality no mater how illogical it is..

Having even 5 IF on a 15 st charac give you 20% more hp yet it is useless for some reason.