[Unban Essay] Free Alv [Warning: Russian words inside]

[VR__Alv]

 

[Tears of Destiny]

This player deserves an un-ban.  Most of his bans were unjustified, in my view.  TKing does not deserve a ban...it deserves a kick.  If someone TK's over and over, then ban them for a hour or two, at most.

So I can grief every day because the Admins are handcuffed into being teddy bears? I'm not certain that I agree with this.

[VR__Alv]

So I can grief every day because the Admins are handcuffed into being teddy bears? I'm not certain that I agree with this.

i want to answer you but dont understand what did you say (goolge translator says stupid things) sorry

[Penitent]

So I can grief every day because the Admins are handcuffed into being teddy bears? I'm not certain that I agree with this.

This was a small part of my position, and I understand if you disagree.  The meat of my post was below that though.

I guess its just a matter of perspective.  You may say "I can grief every day" and I'd say "you can get banned every day".  You'd say "hand-cuffed teddy bear" and I'd say "acting with prudence, but firmness."  Not all griefs are created equal, and the punishment should fit the crime.  TW/TK = minor offense.  Cheating/hacking = major offense.  The point I was trying to make with that 1st paragraph is that if his minor offenses were treated as such with a warning or a kick, his ban count would be considerably less than 8 and we'd be dealing with a different animal.  I'm saying lets call a spade a spade.  8 TW bans is waaaay different than 8 cheating bans (which would never happen, but you get my point).

True justice: you ruin someone's round (TK, TW) you have a round ruined (kick).  You ruin someone's day (racist remark, etc), you day gets ruined (1 day ban).  You ruin someone's entire game (hacking someone's account, cheating), your game gets ruined (perma-ban).  That's just my views.

The rest of my previous post, and what follows here, appeals to alv's specific condition, and his fate is the one we must consider now.  We all have the same goal: justice.  However we must take into account that this is a game and the severity of the crimes.  We must also take into account the consequences of the different actions we can take now:

If we choose to keep alv banned, we will completely obliterate his enjoyment of the game, but possibly slightly increase the rest of the playerbase's enjoyment (cuz they don't have to play with possibly un-reformed griefer).  If we allow him back in, we will completely restore one players enjoyment of the game (his) and possibly temporarily decrease the enjoyment for a few players (whoever is in game with him if he fucks up again...and only for the short period until he is re-banned.)  We must look at what is certain in the above statements, and what are the variables.  What are the chances of those variable occurring, and what are the consequences?  I think true justice will see giving him another chance still.

My logic is flawless!   
For real though, think about it.

[Penitent]

i want to answer you but dont understand what did you say (goolge translator says stupid things) sorry

Google translate is probably not saying stupid things...its an english expression (two of them actually, combined).  When someone is "handcuffed" it symbolically means they are bound, or restricted.  Another form of this expression is saying someones "hands are tied."  The other is "teddy bear", a stuffed animal toy.  When you say someone is being a "teddy bear" they are being soft, cuddly, or overly kind.

Tears is saying that my suggestions for more lenient admin punishments would be like "restricting the admin's actions so that they are too soft or kind".  Same as "handcuffed into being teddy bears."

[Armpit_Sweat]

... вкусил сладость личерства ...

... took delight in sweet leeching ...


That part made me smile +5

[Armpit_Sweat]

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How getting banned 8 times by 6 different admins indicates that there is something wrong with my behavior

First of all i want to say that in my 1st form i have only 2 English lessons per week so i was allowed to
write my essay in russian:

Начнем с сути бана. Бан - кара нарушителям порядка и тем кто пренебрегает правилами.Бан насылаеться на головы смертных админами,
 котрые подобно Одину кидают их как молнии, и тем самым насылают смертную кару на задрота.
Так как админов одобряет его величество Чадс,правильность решений админов не вызывает сомнения.Охрана правил порядка их основная задача,
 но все же находятся уникумы которые откровенно не соблюдают правила (одним их них,к сожеленью, являюсь я).
Восемь раз я был забанен за нарушения (4 раза ла личерство, один за нарушение правил - проходы сквозь стены и 3 за тимкил).

Так как я не отличаюсь хорошей фантазией которая помогла бы мне при написании этого эссе, я перечитал почти все Unban Essey
в соответствующей теме - но это мне не помогло.Так что приготовьтесь читать пару абзацов полнейшего бреда и соплей далее.

Все началось с великого взрыва...кхм..все началось с сентябре, или октябре я точно не помню, тогда я первый раз вкусил сладость личерства -
ты стоишь ничего не делая и получаешь при этом золото - разве это не счастье? Как оказалось - нет. Сказка кончилась когда я получил свой первый 3-дневный бан,
это как первый секс - ты боишься и не знаешь что тебе делать дальше. Я был вынужден 3 дня мучаться на американских серверах с пингом 150+.Когда все кончилось
 и я вернусля на свою любимую Эвропейскую осаду я успокоился и расслабился и сам не замечая того начал личить опять.... личерство затянуло меня как наркотик, более того
мои дела на ринке пошли вверх и мне срочно нужны были деньги для новых и новых выгодных сделок.....баны начали сыпаться на мою голову с такой-же переодичностью как идет
дождь в Англии.....дела ухудшились... мои друзья начали издеваться с меня.... мне не оставалось ничего делать как выбить клин клином и продолжать личерить что бы заработать
мастерворки и утереть соклановцам нос.... тогда у меня начали появляться первые враги....но мне это не мешало жить....но вскорее врагов стало в несколько раз больше
чем друзей, они меня били и даже убивали. Но благодаря вряжденному гарячему казацкому характеру я защищал себя за что и получал очередное наказание

Тимкилы. Получив волшебный топор от моего друга я стал берсерком. Я заходил на осаду надевал блестящие латы и вряваясь в толпу включал режим берсерка - начинал месить всех
подряд. От быстрых движений и большой кучи людей вокруг мой ПК начинал жутко лагать и мне приходилось играть в "слепую". Часто под лезвие волшебного оружия попадали мои товарищи
банер которых я просто не замечал и поскольку я был уверен что я убил врага я не извинялся на тимкил и часто уже через 10 минут игры я набирал 5/5 репортов и меня кикало.
Конечно нужно быть сильным человеком что бы не написать тему на форуме обо мне плохом. И вот нашелся человек у которого сдали нервы и он не смог пережить очередного тимкила
с моей стороны - Outcast_BD_Baby_Wolf. Странно но мне не хочеться найти его и убить я хочу поблагадарить его за то что он помог мне очнуться и раскаиться о моих действиях.
 
Baby_Wolf,
If you read it, please forgive me all TK and TH from my side it will never happen again.
I hope you will forgive me and we will be friends.
                                                                 Alv

Я каюсь о содеяном и обещаю что больше такого не повториться. Я попытаюсь изменить ник как можно побыстрее что бы избавится от плохого прошлого........
Надеюсь и прошу о прощении.....
 
Искриние ваш, Альв.

Here is a close translation from Russian. I did my best to preserve the original text as good as possible. English is my 4th language, and I don't use it outside of internet, so you are welcome to correct my mistakes

( i kept the original English parts out )
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Lets begin by defining what ban is. Ban – is a punishment for disturbers of order, and those who disregard the rules. Admin's ban, descends on the heads of mortal men like Odin's lightning bolt -  dealing death to the wicked.
Since administrators are supported by his highness chadz, their decisions are not being questioned. Protection of law and order – is their top priority.
Despite that, there are still some individuals who blatantly break the rules. ( I am, unfortunately, one of them ) I have been banned 8 times for breaking rules. ( 4 times for leeching, one for walking through walls and 3 times for team killing )

Since I do not possess a good imagination, that could otherwise assist me in writing this essay, I have read almost every unban essay on the forum – but that didn't help. Prepare yourself for nonsense and whining, that comes in the following paragraph.

It all began with a big bang... hmm.. it all began in September or October, i cant recall exactly, thats when i took delight in sweet leeching for the first time – you are doing nothing and earning gold – is  it not happiness? As it turns out – its not. The fairytale ended with my first 3-day ban. *** *** ****** **** - ** ****** * ** ****** *** **** ****** ******. I was forced to suffer on US servers for 3 days, enduring a 150+ ping. When it was over, and i came back to my beloved European siege, I got too comfortable and that led me to leeching once again....  Leeching became my drug, and as i experienced some success on the market – i craved for more gold for my lucrative business deals. Bans were raining on my head, as often as it rains in England. It was a bad time... My friends began to make fun of me... I had to leech, in order to acquire masterwork weapons and prove my worth to my clan-mates. By that time, I made my first enemies... but that didn't bother me... soon i had more enemies then friends, who attacked and killed me. I had to defend myself due to my naturally hot Cossack temper, and that was the reason for my next punishment – ban for team killing.

A magical axe that i got from a friend of mine – made me a berserker. I used to charge walls in my shining armor – jumping in a crowd and shredding everything in my path. All this action and fast movements made my PC lag, so i had to play ”blindly”. Often, my team-mates ended up under my weapon's magical blade, and since i did not see their banners – i did not apologize for my team kills.
Already after 10 minutes of playing, I had 5/5 team-wounding reports, and was kicked from the game. 
One has to be an exceptionally strong person, in order to restrain from reporting my vile actions on forum. Finally, there was someone who had enough of my team killing -  Outcast_BD_Baby_Wolf. Strangely enough, i don't want to find and kill him, I want to thank him for waking me up, and making me regret my actions.

I apologize for my actions and promise, that it will never happen again. I will change my nick-name, so I can erase my wicked past as soon as possible.....
I hope and beg for forgiveness.....

Sincerely yours, Alv.


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* This sentence is too corny for me, and i refuse to translate it. Sorry.    

[MR_FISTA]

This was a small part of my position, and I understand if you disagree.  The meat of my post was below that though.

I guess its just a matter of perspective.  You may say "I can grief every day" and I'd say "you can get banned every day".  You'd say "hand-cuffed teddy bear" and I'd say "acting with prudence, but firmness."  Not all griefs are created equal, and the punishment should fit the crime.  TW/TK = minor offense.  Cheating/hacking = major offense.  The point I was trying to make with that 1st paragraph is that if his minor offenses were treated as such with a warning or a kick, his ban count would be considerably less than 8 and we'd be dealing with a different animal.  I'm saying lets call a spade a spade.  8 TW bans is waaaay different than 8 cheating bans (which would never happen, but you get my point).

True justice: you ruin someone's round (TK, TW) you have a round ruined (kick).  You ruin someone's day (racist remark, etc), you day gets ruined (1 day ban).  You ruin someone's entire game (hacking someone's account, cheating), your game gets ruined (perma-ban).  That's just my views.

The rest of my previous post, and what follows here, appeals to alv's specific condition, and his fate is the one we must consider now.  We all have the same goal: justice.  However we must take into account that this is a game and the severity of the crimes.  We must also take into account the consequences of the different actions we can take now:

If we choose to keep alv banned, we will completely obliterate his enjoyment of the game, but possibly slightly increase the rest of the playerbase's enjoyment (cuz they don't have to play with possibly un-reformed griefer).  If we allow him back in, we will completely restore one players enjoyment of the game (his) and possibly temporarily decrease the enjoyment for a few players (whoever is in game with him if he fucks up again...and only for the short period until he is re-banned.)  We must look at what is certain in the above statements, and what are the variables.  What are the chances of those variable occurring, and what are the consequences?  I think true justice will see giving him another chance still.

My logic is flawless!   
For real though, think about it.

Don't even know the guy but you have to agree with this, give the guy a chance he clearly regrets his actions and won't risk another ban.

[Torben]

A picture is being drawn here,  of an immature,  hot tempered little fella that gets too involved into this game.  I personally like him,  however i dont think that is clouding my judgement whilst supporting his unban.

he didnt do anything that i couldnt forgive him for  if it was done to me,  and just maybe he will get a hold of himself in the future.

in the end it comes down to applying the rules with the intention of keeping the game enjoyable and playable for everyone.
if he should not live up to these expectations in the future,  a real punishment would be at hand.

[VR__Alv]

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Here is a close translation from Russian. I did my best to preserve the original text as good as possible. English is my 4th language, and I don't use it outside of internet, so you are welcome to correct my mistakes

( i kept the original English parts out )
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Lets begin by defining what ban is. Ban – is a punishment for disturbers of order, and those who disregard the rules. Admin's ban, descends on the heads of mortal men like Odin's lightning bolt -  dealing death to the wicked.
Since administrators are supported by his highness chadz, their decisions are not being questioned. Protection of law and order – is their top priority.
Despite that, there are still some individuals who blatantly break the rules. ( I am, unfortunately, one of them ) I have been banned 8 times for breaking rules. ( 4 times for leeching, one for walking through walls and 3 times for team killing )

Since I do not possess a good imagination, that could otherwise assist me in writing this essay, I have read almost every unban essay on the forum – but that didn't help. Prepare yourself for nonsense and whining, that comes in the following paragraph.

It all began with a big bang... hmm.. it all began in September or October, i cant recall exactly, thats when i took delight in sweet leeching for the first time – you are doing nothing and earning gold – is  it not happiness? As it turns out – its not. The fairytale ended with my first 3-day ban. *** *** ****** **** - ** ****** * ** ****** *** **** ****** ******. I was forced to suffer on US servers for 3 days, enduring a 150+ ping. When it was over, and i came back to my beloved European siege, I got too comfortable and that led me to leeching once again....  Leeching became my drug, and as i experienced some success on the market – i craved for more gold for my lucrative business deals. Bans were raining on my head, as often as it rains in England. It was a bad time... My friends began to make fun of me... I had to leech, in order to acquire masterwork weapons and prove my worth to my clan-mates. By that time, I made my first enemies... but that didn't bother me... soon i had more enemies then friends, who attacked and killed me. I had to defend myself due to my naturally hot Cossack temper, and that was the reason for my next punishment – ban for team killing.

A magical axe that i got from a friend of mine – made me a berserker. I used to charge walls in my shining armor – jumping in a crowd and shredding everything in my path. All this action and fast movements made my PC lag, so i had to play ”blindly”. Often, my team-mates ended up under my weapon's magical blade, and since i did not see their banners – i did not apologize for my team kills.
Already after 10 minutes of playing, I had 5/5 team-wounding reports, and was kicked from the game. 
One has to be an exceptionally strong person, in order to restrain from reporting my vile actions on forum. Finally, there was someone who had enough of my team killing -  Outcast_BD_Baby_Wolf. Strangely enough, i don't want to find and kill him, I want to thank him for waking me up, and making me regret my actions.

I apologize for my actions and promise, that it will never happen again. I will change my nick-name, so I can erase my wicked past as soon as possible.....
I hope and beg for forgiveness.....

Sincerely yours, Alv.


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* This sentence is too corny for me, and i refuse to translate it. Sorry.

  Thank you for translating!)

* its like a first sex in your life - you are scared and you dont know what should you do in further)

[VR__Alv]

A picture is being drawn here,  of an immature,  hot tempered little fella that gets too involved into this game...

Yeah its too hard to admit that you are addicted of this game(

[autobus]

First of all: I am russian and i do understand what he meant there.

Now judging on his essay and everything i know about him i see a typical arrogant person who thinks noone can punish him.
Alv was banned for 8 times before and he has lots of friends who was banned before which means he is pretty common with rules and the ways to avoid them.
There are 3 types of players:
1. Player who just got banned writes an honest essay where he explains what he was doing wrong and why he wont do it again, he understands that cheating is no good and never cheats again.
2. Player writes funny/poetic/exotic essay to entertain comunity. He does understand that cheating is wrong but he never cares much, although he proaly wont cheat again cause he experienced the power of ban.
3. Player tries to write funny/poetic/exotic essay to entertain community while not caring about his actions being wrong. He is already thinking of another way to cheat and another way to avoid ban.

I believe Alv is nr.3
Also i think that cheaters are like Dusturil - let them be free for 4 times, get the things done on 5th.

im done.

[MrShine]

I vote no to the unban request.  Yes it's harsh to be permanently banned, but I have no pity when someone is banned 8 times from a game.  Maybe there are times where someone gets banned for a questionable reason, or is having a bad day and get's banned.  That's somewhat understandable. 

But being banned 8 times isn't a mistake, it represents a habit and general lack of remorse.  That means there were 8 times that Alv was banned, sat on it for a bit, had a chance to contemplate his actions.. and then proceeded to do something else to get himself banned afterwards. 

The majority of players in this game never get banned and never have to worry about things like this.  The mature thing to do would be to follow the rules which helps ensure everyone can play for fun.  Even if someone is immature and gets themselves banned one or maybe two times, hopefully those breaks can be a sobering experience signifying it's time to shape up.

...but 8 times?  Multiple counts of team wounding, leeching?  That shows you either don't care or are too stupid to learn.  It shows that you value your entertainment at the expense of other people, and would probably do so in the future too.  If you haven't learned that teamkilling is going to get you into trouble after the first, second, and third bans, why should we believe a 4th one is going to stick?

I personally think essay bans should rarely be approved for this very reason.   If you're that focused on coming back to cRPG nobody is stopping you from buying a new cd key... just be prepared to be banned in the future for the same behavior you've exhibited in the past.

[Didreot]

Has he already been unbanned?

[BD_Baby_Wolf]

i dont think he ever will be. Most of players want him out.