Penalize mounted polearm thrust by 50%

[Rumblood]

A guy sitting in a saddle taking one arm and half-ass poking at someone's breastplate should in no way do as much damage as a standing infantryman using both hands and braced for thrusting into the enemy. It's pretty silly that a guy sitting essentially in a chair with one hand can do as much thrust damage as a guy standing, leaning, and using 2 hands.

This has nothing to do with speed bonus while mounted. I am talking about the guys who are sitting on an essentially motionless horse, casually turning it left and right and yet somehow managing to generate a couple thousands pounds worth of thrust using no more than their uber forearm strength. 

[Arkonor]

Too be honest I wouldn't even be scared to someone like that today with no training against them If someone was waving a pretty heavy pike from one hand. Would just grab it and pull it out of his hand.

[Siiem]

Agreed, leave the 1 hit killing to couching.

[Jarlek]

A guy sitting in a saddle taking one arm and half-ass poking at someone's breastplate should in no way do as much damage as a standing infantryman using both hands and braced for thrusting into the enemy. It's pretty silly that a guy sitting essentially in a chair with one hand can do as much thrust damage as a guy standing, leaning, and using 2 hands.

This has nothing to do with speed bonus while mounted. I am talking about the guys who are sitting on an essentially motionless horse, casually turning it left and right and yet somehow managing to generate a couple thousands pounds worth of thrust using no more than their uber forearm strength. 

Uhmm. Isn't polearms and 2handed weapon damage and speed already reduced when used mounted? Around -30% to both speed and damage? Same as when you use a 2h or polearm with a shield?

[Casimir]

thrust from horseback already receives a nerf to damage and speed.

[Arkonor]

thrust from horseback already receives a nerf to damage and speed.

You still die in one hit so it doesn't matter one bit.

[Rumblood]

thrust from horseback already receives a nerf to damage and speed.

Nerf its current already nerfed damage and speed by more then 

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

Is the horse in your mind Rumblood standing still or at full galop?

Because if its at full gallops the horse in your mind Rumblood standing still or at full gallop?

Because if its at full gallop you have that whole inertia thing going on, and the example of a guy with to hands vs a guy on a galloping horse, feet in stirrups arse again the back of the saddle stabbing you with a big old lance just don’t compare.

Its like saying why is that shot gun more powerful than my hand gun, he is firing it one handed like arny should that take away some of its power.

Some one remember that dudes name the quote goes something like this.

A horse a man a lance a missile.

[Tennenoth]

I think he means when it's standing still, I really do hate having someone "slo-mo" stab me with a lance from horseback, and gently force it through my chest as if I was standing against a wall. I don't care how much pierce the thing has, i've never seen someone (relating slo-mo to real life instances that are similar by force applied) slowly swing an axe at a log, steadily pushing it through, it just doesn't work. 

I don't mind being fullcharged to death but I hate the standstill 1 shot kills for their complete lack of threat. From that I mean, it's so slow that I think "that'll bounce" despite my previous experiences of insta-death.

[Spa_geh_tea]

All lances couch only. Lances have health bars, dropped as broken after so many hits.

[Rumblood]

Is the horse in your mind Rumblood standing still or at full galop?

This has nothing to do with speed bonus while mounted. I am talking about the guys who are sitting on an essentially motionless horse, casually turning it left and right and yet somehow managing to generate a couple thousands pounds worth of thrust using no more than their uber forearm strength. 

[Aleskander]

All lances couch only. Lances have health bars, dropped as broken after so many hits.

This
and make them one slot

[Siiem]

Its like saying why is that shot gun more powerful than my hand gun, he is firing it one handed like arny should that take away some of its power.

Wtf are you talking about... how is that even remotely similar.

[Tennenoth]

Wtf are you talking about... how is that even remotely similar.

Because if you thrust with the shotgun at the same time that you fire, you get an increased speed bonus! D: Don't you know these things Siiem?

[Torben]

Tenne-  your inquiry therefor is that the slow animation should result in less damage,  which is understandable.

However,  the slow  animation on the Heavy lance is meant to nerf it, as in "slower weapons are weaker",  not in terms of damage.
This,  however,  actually only nerfs the use whilst dehorsed.

I personally loved the patch a few months back when the lance was even slower,  as the speed multi gets elevated with the lower speed of the used weapon,  so the following proposition is actually a lancer nerf:

I would suggest making the lances faster.  This would decrease their speed damage bonus,  would make timing a perfect hit harder,  and wouldnt give you a headache about why you just got killed by a standing lancer : )