Polls on Wooki, Lilith/Nuffen AND [ptx] - DISCUSSION

[Lt_Anders]

I would suggest that eu admins play a bit on NA siege server and watch how Nindurr_ATS moderate.

Oh nindurr got admin now?

He didn't have it a month ago.

[Ninja_Khorin]

I support both. I have only ever seen them ban people for legit reasons or people that have been just generally annoying 

[RagnarLodbroke]

To be honest, after ppl got admin rights ingame, this game was starting to get boring.!

[[ptx]]

To be honest, after ppl got admin rights ingame, this game was starting to get boring.!

TBH, not many people have somewhat accurate memories of what the game was like before that.

[Vicious666]

the problem is how this mod chose theyr admin :a fucking forum with ppl, ME ME ME ME ME ME ME.

so we end with admin like wooki   ,       raise your standard, and we will have less whine about bad  administrators 

[Alex_C]

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME.

Vicious for admin!

[LordBerenger]

Just make Balton admin and justice will be served i'm sure.

[Vicious666]

Vicious for admin!

no thx.

i am not a good administrator becouse even if i am pretty fair and logic,     i am a flamer.          , and i like to flame and troll

[Karmazyn]

Oh nindurr got admin now?

He didn't have it a month ago.

Now yes, earlier I don’t know.
I only was on NA because EU siege had problems last days. I saw NA admin Nindurr acting, I was so WoW, that is what people want. Then I remembered that Lilith (?!) wanted help me and suggested to buy a shield and I thought that I can now give a good suggestion back. Thats all.

[Banok]

They both seem like cool guys to me so nothing personal, but the very small experience I have with their admin-ing was not positive.

the argument in wooki's thread that admins shouldn't troll the forums is a good one, but unfortunately invalidated by the chadz:

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[BD_Guard_Bane]

The problem is, how does this process of nomination + vote differentiate between:

1) Players who resent admins exercising authority over them (justified or not)

2) Players who want to see if the process will work, out of curiosity (cats)

3) Players who have no personal experience of bad-adminship, but want to side with their friends (tribalism)

4) Players who vote based on personal feelings toward an admin, not on the quality of their admin decisions

6) Players who are affected by rhetoric or persuasive posts from people with a vested interest in the results (political campaigning)

7) Players who don't have any experience of the admin's decisions and actions, but will vote in a poll if one is put up

8) Players who have actual experience of poor decisions made by an admin, and believe for good reasons that those decisions were not a momentary error, but will continue due to the nature of the particular admin.

I have a feeling that groups 1-7 are quite large, but group 8 is very small. Maybe I'm wrong

[IG_Saint]

I've been meaning to ask liltih something: Why do you kick spectators that are afk? Just the other day I had to go afk for +/- 15 minutes, so I joined spectators to preserve my x5. I come back and find I'd been kicked by lilith. The server at the time had less than 30 people on. I'd done nothing wrong, I wasn't bothering anyone, I wasn't blocking people from joining the server. It was just a completely meaningless kick. It doesn't really matter obviously, lost a x5, who cares, but maybe not the best choice for a admin that's already facing losing his admin right.

[Ganon]

The problem is, how does this process of nomination + vote differentiate between:

1) Players who resent admins exercising authority over them (justified or not)

2) Players who want to see if the process will work, out of curiosity (cats)

3) Players who have no personal experience of bad-adminship, but want to side with their friends (tribalism)

4) Players who vote based on personal feelings toward an admin, not on the quality of their admin decisions

6) Players who are affected by rhetoric or persuasive posts from people with a vested interest in the results (political campaigning)

7) Players who don't have any experience of the admin's decisions and actions, but will vote in a poll if one is put up

8) Players who have actual experience of poor decisions made by an admin, and believe for good reasons that those decisions were not a momentary error, but will continue due to the nature of the particular admin.

I have a feeling that groups 1-7 are quite large, but group 8 is very small. Maybe I'm wrong

Those are the problems with democracy, before this change we had a different method in choosing admins, neither is perfect but we know for sure the old method had some questionable results.

[IG_Saint]

Those are the problems with democracy, before this change we had a different method in choosing admins, neither is perfect but we know for sure the old method had some questionable results.

What new method for choosing admins? All we got was the ability to get rid of a bad admin. As far as I remember the admins were all chosen by chadz and the other admins. Not a perfect method, but alot beter than a popularity vote. And tbh I can't think of a beter way, unless you go for an IG style admin selection, where you monitor the prospective admins for a couple of months, to make sure he can handle the responsibilty, before giving them the rights.

And let's face it, chadz has more important things to do than making sure every admin is perfect (like giving us back xp/gold on the duel server )

[bruce]

I've been meaning to ask liltih something: Why do you kick spectators that are afk? Just the other day I had to go afk for +/- 15 minutes, so I joined spectators to preserve my x5. I come back and find I'd been kicked by lilith. The server at the time had less than 30 people on. I'd done nothing wrong, I wasn't bothering anyone, I wasn't blocking people from joining the server. It was just a completely meaningless kick. It doesn't really matter obviously, lost a x5, who cares, but maybe not the best choice for a admin that's already facing losing his admin right.

Well, beat being kicked out for having high ping at round start, by Lilith of course. Random and silly, and has nothing to do with any rules.