How to deal with kickspammers as a one hander ?

[Kansuke]

Back when I started crpg a year ago there were only a few people using kicks during duels but now it seems it became a common tactic when fighting a 1 hander. I'm having hard time dueling against those players who mastered the kickslash move such as some greys and other well know people.

Because of the lower reach of 1h weapon it's sometimes hard to avoid the kick range when fighting 2h or polearms without backpedaling and it's even harder with a shield because of the extra weight (note: I always duel without shield).

I'd like to have some advice about this, is there a good way to deal with the systematic kickslashing when fighting a good player with a short weapon ?

Sorry for the poor english.

edit: oops wrong section, anyone could move this to the beginner's section ?

[Kafein]

Backpedal just like them until they are bored and start actually fighting you.

Alternatively, you can try moving in a less predictable manner. Which involves being less guided by what swing they use to determine your movement direction, but that's hard.

[Lezard]

Always stay out of kick reach. Defensive style, make them bored by blocking a lot and mix simple fast swings with short held swing while staying out of kick reach. Use thrust if they kick a lot since it can't be blocked while kicking.

I almost never duel, but that is what I do against kickers.

[rustyspoon]

Just keep strafing. If they have to keep turning they won't be able to land a kick.

[Lezard]

Just keep strafing. If they have to keep turning they won't be able to land a kick.

A good kicker might predict your strafing movements and get a kick in even when you're strafing. Strafing around your opponent might work, but there's also more risk involved.

[Herkkutatti]

People might be a kickspammer but you are 1h spammer thats even worse..

[Kansuke]

Use thrust if they kick a lot since it can't be blocked while kicking.

This is something I didn't know, I'm bad at trusting but I should start to focus on it 

Also most of the kick occurs when the opponent just launched an attack and it's my turn to attack so I come closer to him and that's where I get kicked. Like Lezard said strafing is risky since it's predictable and I hate when someone backpedal so I don't do it myself.

[PieParadox]

Another reason why I think 1hander is the worst melee class.... 

The way to deal with it is always keep your distance just far enough... unless you're using a pick or something. Sometimes circling them works really well but not for long.
Best and most obvious advice: Don't be predictable!

[wayyyyyne]

During my previous gen as a 1hander I've found out that going Urist style (with some modifications) on all those people with their generic danish great swords works best (ie. blockblockblock, when they're backpedaling: only chase to pretend you're going to fall for the inventible kick that's gonna follow only to strafe to the right side at the right time so you end up in their back when they're still immobile due to the kick they've just delivered.)

[BlindGuy]

During my previous gen as a 1hander I've found out that going Urist style (with some modifications) on all those people with their generic danish great swords works best (ie. blockblockblock, when they're backpedaling: only chase to pretend you're going to fall for the inventible kick that's gonna follow only to strafe to the right side at the right time so you end up in their back when they're still immobile due to the kick they've just delivered.)

THIS.

If you know they are a kicker, bait the kick as you move diagonally past them, instead of directly at them, so as the kick reaches full extension you are behind them with a "held" head height swing, chopping their head from behind, follow with faststab to the neck to finnish.

[Gurnisson]

I kick a lot so I know about its weakness. When facing a good kicker I pretend to facehug with left swing spam and backpedal quickly with a thrust to the face when I anticipate the kick

[Tears of Destiny]

I've never been kicked besides from Aldryk because NA is no-skill. Even SaulCanner failed 

[Kenji]

... NA is no-skill...

QFT.

Hence the high amount of lolplate, spamberge, and bec de OP clutching in the NA servers. 

[Snoozer]

hmm i couldnt say i hardly play in EU so i cant really make stereo types of it

my last gen was 1h long espada (21/15) i never really had a problem do to the fact i was rather spammy and back peddly as well

my tip would be to just keep your distance like 2-3 feat just enough out of their attack range(but not too far) and when you find an opening close in and strike

never move in straight lines always juke and zig zag never follow them, its instinct to chase something thats retreating(its a sign of weakness)so if you turn away unless their rather defensive they will follow,if not they will break off to fight someone else

i suppose i good example would be out boxing if your familiar with boxing

During my previous gen as a 1hander I've found out that going Urist style (with some modifications) on all those people with their generic danish great swords works best (ie. blockblockblock, when they're backpedaling: only chase to pretend you're going to fall for the inventible kick that's gonna follow only to strafe to the right side at the right time so you end up in their back when they're still immobile due to the kick they've just delivered.)

^this is great its not only for kickers its great crowd control they never expect you just to run forward through the mob itself and to hit the one with his guard down,and even if they do expect it with experience you can put yourself in positions where ugo through the crowd and strike the only one in position to hit you.during this process they do a lot of team wounding(if not killing eachother)

eventually you will learn to position yourself accordingly,please note this tactic works best with high ath imo 6 is minimum any lower your pushing it(im learning the hard way with my 4 ath build i survive a while but eventually the in circle me)

just try these as a last resort its just something you learn by trial and error u cant really force the situation(nor would you want to)

[Dezilagel]

Realize that your 1h has a surprising amount of reach due to animations, and grants you higher movement speed which nets you even more. (in practice)

But yeah, baiting the kick is usually a very good idea, and the thrust-thing is completely true, even though the window where it's unblockable is very small.