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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 09:38:57 am »
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I've never been kicked besides from Aldryk because NA is no-skill. Even SaulCanner failed  :mrgreen:

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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2012, 10:24:08 am »
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But yeah, baiting the kick is usually a very good idea, and the thrust-thing is completely true, even though the window where it's unblockable is very small.

Basically you have to start the thrust at the same time as your opponent kicks, or it will be too late. You have to anticipate the kick of course. Or just thrust randomly and hope for a kick.

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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2012, 11:15:48 am »
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I recognize the problem. Katana users suffer from this aswell, and I've tried the thrusting thing but the katanas thrust is a little unpredictable.

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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2012, 12:56:01 pm »
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Yep i rarely use kicks and i suffer against 1h, it is really the best counter to them i guess.

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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2012, 01:42:00 pm »
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I recognize the problem. Katana users suffer from this aswell, and I've tried the thrusting thing but the katanas thrust is a little unpredictable.
Hot_Chick uses a katana and imho, giving it thrust actually nerfed it; the thrust is only good for frightening enemies, you generally get hit yourself if you try and use a thrust with a katana. I usually only see kicks against shielders, because it has the additional effect of magically making your shield go intangible for nearly a second even when you resposition. I don't know this, but I wonder if you have a particularly fast weapon whether you could respond to the kick by attacking? The other option is yourself to kick if you sense one coming - it is possible for two opponents to kick each other at the same time, with amusing results.
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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2012, 02:35:58 pm »
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It always had a thrust. The thrust got nerfed at one point, though.

And I refuse to give up the thrust from the katana. It's still useful. Just don't use it if you don't like it.

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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2012, 02:41:40 pm »
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It's pretty easy to avoid getting kicked, just play defensively, i.e don't facehug.
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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2012, 02:48:22 pm »
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It always had a thrust. The thrust got nerfed at one point, though.

And I refuse to give up the thrust from the katana. It's still useful. Just don't use it if you don't like it.

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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2012, 04:15:29 pm »
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When you are kicked, it means that the enemy had predicted your path. What they do, is lead your movement, so they will kick you at their guessed path. What you really have to do, is be unpredictable, like others said.

How to do that? I don't know :?.

I always was a pikeman but if i am dueling i use a LHB and just side spam with the occasional feint.

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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as the one hander ?
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2012, 04:55:10 pm »
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It's pretty easy to avoid getting kicked, just play defensively, i.e don't facehug.

That last part is a bit hard, as the range difference between weapons almost make it a must to face hug.

If I stay at the tip of the range of my 100 reach 1h, my enemy can swing, step back to dodge my swing while swinging and hit me with his longer weapon. 1 small misjudgement from my side instantly puts the enemy out of reach for me, while I'm still in his reach.
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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as a one hander ?
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2012, 09:53:18 am »
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This works so great for me.
Just let them strike you at your block, then you delay an right swing .
Dont move forward just hold your ground they will notice your not walking in what they want.
Then they will usualy try to attack again, but then right before the pole/2handers walks forward to strike again you just release the delayed right swing and walk forward a BIT.
This was my main teqnique with arabian cav or winged mace.
EDIT : or get mw long espada enslovana and spam thrust and make them regret for kicking, it worked so awesome.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2012, 09:55:19 am by george »
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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as a one hander ?
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2012, 10:25:10 am »
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get yourselves a horse and leave the petty infntry in fear !!!
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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as a one hander ?
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2012, 10:45:55 am »
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What worked best for me as 1h is moving while strafing (=> W+D or W+A). You won't advance in a straight line and nearly most people will miss the kick due to that and get their face slashed. At least that worked wonders against your Grey-Kickers...
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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as a one hander ?
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2012, 01:00:42 pm »
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oh btw um no one uses becs and spambergs in NA anymore(for now atleast i hardly ever see them)

and theres like.....no plate crutchers like there use to be
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Re: How to deal with kickspammers as a one hander ?
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2012, 10:37:23 pm »
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The flavor of the month is now transitional armour crutchers, much more economical to be honest.

Becs fell out of favor because the Officials have enough room you can do footwork unlike maps of old (I for one am seeing a rise in AGI characters).
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