30/9 effective WPF

[Supreme_Leader]

30 str, 9 agi, 7 IF, 10 PS, 3 ath, 3 WM, 130 WPF base.

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Wearing the 3.1lb helm puts me at an effective WPF of 89. Anything below 100 loses damage, right? Without it I'm at 102.

[Rhaelys]

Recommendation: Drop 3 WM, put in into Ironflesh. Wear your helmet, too.

[Bobthehero]

Recomandation: Fix your build, I have 10 PS 10 IF 3 WM and 3 ATH.

[Rhaelys]

Recomandation: Fix your build, I have 10 PS 10 IF 3 WM and 3 ATH.

Maybe if you're level 31

[Falka]

Is that true on level 34 we get 1 additional skill point (then 1 attribute point and 2 skill points in total)?

[Nehvar]

Is that true on level 34 we get 1 additional skill point (then 1 attribute point and 2 skill points in total)?

Nope.

[Elmokki]

Any wpf below any other wpf loses damage compared to that. 89 wpf is 98.35% damage modifier, 130 is 104.5% damage modifier. You lose about 6% damage.

BUT I've been told the reduced wpf after armor does not affect damage (only speed and having enough wpf to pick up throwing weapons). I do not know if this is true though since I haven't seen evidence of either option.

[Supreme_Leader]

Recomandation: Fix your build, I have 10 PS 10 IF 3 WM and 3 ATH.

As Rhaelys said, that's only possible at level 31.

[Supreme_Leader]

Recommendation: Drop 3 WM, put in into Ironflesh. Wear your helmet, too.

Won't 0 WM gimp my damage output?

[Rhaelys]

100 WPF is not a magical damage threshold/tier.

[Boerenlater]

Does that 10PS not totally encouter the lack of wpf?

[Rhaelys]

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There you go. With a 40 Cut weapon against 60 Armor, the 13 effective WPF difference accounts for only a 6% increase in melee damage on average (25 v. 23.5). You're using 3 skill points to achieve that, and losing out on 6 health.

I do not know about you, but I definitely prefer swinging for 6% less damage over not being able to swing at all, because you are already dead from that stray arrow.

[Polobow]

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There you go. With a 40 Cut weapon against 60 Armor, the 13 effective WPF difference accounts for only a 6% increase in melee damage on average (25 v. 23.5). You're using 3 skill points to achieve that, and losing out on 6 health.

I do not know about you, but I definitely prefer swinging for 6% less damage over not being able to swing at all, because you are already dead from that stray arrow.

What about the speed?

[Rhaelys]

Per WaltF4's Weapon attack speed and proficiency and not agility:

Let's use a Masterwork Awlpike (Speed 94 back when WaltF4 conducted his analysis, the same speed as a Masterwork Sword of War) for calculating purposes.

y=-0.0008x+1.1579

For 111 WPF, swing speed would be 1.0691 seconds.

For 130 WPF, swing speed would be 1.0539 seconds.

This translates to a 1.42% increase in swing speed. However, the absolute difference in swing speed is only 0.0152 seconds, or 15.2 milliseconds.

[Zerran]

My current build has 55 1H wpf and 100 polearm wpf. Even with that, I have absolutely no trouble using my 1H very effectively. Weaponmaster is kind of useless for melee, imo.