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Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« on: January 27, 2012, 05:18:03 am »
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Hey guys, time to post another probably gamebreaking suggestion.  Can we get some of the low to mid-ranged 2-handers usable on horseback?  Dadao and Long Iron Mace would be sick on horseback. 

115 length and high damage is balanced by lack of shield capability, and no thrust.  Long Iron Mace doesn't have crushthrough anymore either. 

Let me know what you guys think.  2H cav is limited to the shortened military scythe, Morningstar, and Longsword atm.  Let's have some fun with it.
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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 05:21:47 am »
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Don't forget the 2h axes.  Great axe got added to the 2h cav line up last item patch.

115 length would be kind of OP, much as I would love to use a dadao on horseback, it's too long.  However, since the bar mace class of weapons doesn't have crushthrough anymore, I don't see why it couldn't be used on horseback again.
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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 05:39:04 am »
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Damn, great axe is pretty beast.  Never caught that detail.


Cmon guys help me lobby for the Dadao though, haha
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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 06:37:29 am »
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Uumdi really loves this weapon man (no homo), to the point where he'll give his +3 English Bill to the dev that makes this happen probably.
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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 12:21:52 pm »
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I can only approved.

Dev team, you know you want it.  Either add Dadao on horseback, or make a reskinned Uumdi's English Bill, that has the stats of an inferior weapon, but a really wacky and colorful graphic with LED lights on it.
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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 12:48:59 pm »
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i really like my flamberge, can i swing this from horseback also?
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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 01:02:02 pm »
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i don't understand why da-dao and miao dao cannot be swing on horseback, i have seen lots of movies and films and chinese people can do that actually. while great axe can swing on horseback? it's a bit unbalance if you tell me.

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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 01:26:52 pm »
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I'm with you on the Long Iron Mace. While the Dadao is a bit too long the Bar Mace, Studded Warclub and maybe the Maul should be usuable. They're all under 100 length and have a pretty moderate speed rating. It'd be great to see more diversity from 2h cav outside of the longswords and the occasional guy with a morningstar derpin around.

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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 01:36:26 pm »
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I'm with you on the Long Iron Mace. While the Dadao is a bit too long the Bar Mace, Studded Warclub and maybe the Maul should be usuable. They're all under 100 length and have a pretty moderate speed rating. It'd be great to see more diversity from 2h cav outside of the longswords and the occasional guy with a morningstar derpin around.


You wanna make weapon with crushtrough usable on horseback? Think twice dude.

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You can always take Shortened military Scythe. Don't tell me, that you cant live without this -3 lenght in comparison with Dadao.

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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 11:50:20 pm »
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You wanna make weapon with crushtrough usable on horseback? Think twice dude.

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You can always take Shortened military Scythe. Don't tell me, that you cant live without this -3 lenght in comparison with Dadao.

I don't know about you, but landing overheads from horseback is pretty difficult for me and last time I checked crush-through was only activated from overhead attacks. Ninety-nine percent of the attacks made from horseback with a 3 directional weapon will most likely be side swings... unless you're me and you like to bop people on the head for the extra challenge. Like Uumdi, I want some more variety among 2h weapons used from horseback... little stat differences don't really factor into it so much.

Edit: If you can hit someone with an overhead from horseback using a 69 length Maul then you probably deserve some crush-through.
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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 11:55:50 pm »
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I don't know about you, but landing overheads from horseback is pretty difficult for me and last time I checked crush-through was only activated from overhead attacks. Ninety-nine percent of the attacks made from horseback with a 3 directional weapon will most likely be side swings... unless you're me and you like to bop people on the head for the extra challenge. Like Uumdi, I want some more variety among 2h weapons used from horseback... little stat differences don't really factor into it so much.

Edit: If you can hit someone with an overhead from horseback using a 69 length Maul then you probably deserve some crush-through.

Mauls etc., used to be useable on horseback, and side swings do proc crushthrough when you're on horseback.

It was great fun, but it was overpowered as fuck, because EVERY swing was a crushthrough swing because of the huge speed bonus.
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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2012, 12:00:26 am »
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I think Dadao from horseback would be quite OP..

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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2012, 12:04:13 am »
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long iron mace should be usable from horseback.

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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2012, 12:26:56 am »
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Okay ill make a list

barmace- no                                                                           looks crap
long iron mace - yes                                                               was meant for cav
dadao- no                                                                               too much damage and reach looks bad
miadao- no                                                                             already good enough
practice longsword - (it is usable and very OP) - yes             It hits hard and is very long but isnt used so is okay
Twohandedsword - yes                                                          For the euro guys
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Re: Weapons useable on horseback (Mostly 2H)
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2012, 12:52:53 am »
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Mauls etc., used to be useable on horseback, and side swings do proc crushthrough when you're on horseback.

It was great fun, but it was overpowered as fuck, because EVERY swing was a crushthrough swing because of the huge speed bonus.

I have to admit I jumped on the Warband train kind of late. But, I've been playing M&B though since 0.7x and remember using great mauls from horseback... just didn't realize this feature was imported over to Multiplayer. Looks like I missed the fun! With WSE though, and all the great changes they've been able to make with it, it should be possible to remove this and make only overheads proc crush-through. I guess I just have a real hard on for maces/mauls used from horseback and would love to see some more.