Clan Banner Pack (v 4.2) Patch broke scripts again

[Reinhardt]

Just a friendly warning, that this was my first time making a banner. I'll... probably be working on an updated version and submit one in the next few days. Thanks for the (probably temp) banner, though!

[Overdriven]

No worries. The current one looks good regardless 

[Reinhardt]

Nice enough to lie to me, I like it!

http://imageshack.us/g/688/aowbannerunf1.jpg/

I remade them. Currently asking the mates which one they like best.

[Overdriven]

Nice enough to lie to me, I like it!

http://imageshack.us/g/688/aowbannerunf1.jpg/

I remade them. Currently asking the mates which one they like best.

Ah you have to remember how the placement of the emblem will affect it's appearance on tunics/shield. For instance on those, the emblem would be way to high on shields and most of it would be cut out. On heraldic armour you'd get about half of it on the upper chest.

To get it centre on a huscarl shield for example, you need the bottom of the emblem to just be above the line of three folds in the banner.

Like this one:
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The bulls head on this is perfectly central on a round shield in game. As for heraldic mail, the head is slightly lower, mid chest - bottom of it.

That's why in game this:

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Is to big for shields and the head and legs of the cossack are cut off. However, on heraldic mail and tabard it fit perfectly.

The reduced one fits perfectly on kite shields and also sits well on heraldic mail, however on round shields the legs would be cut off:
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[Reinhardt]

Honestly, I only looked for the best option on heraldic mails. I really only did this because most of AoW are 2h/polearm/cav/whatnot. They don't usually use shields. And testing the old banner, the bird was too big, and too low. I changed it so that it would be higher, and look significantly better on heraldic mail. Even if the bird was not mostly on the shields, at least the stripes would be, right?

[Overdriven]

Honestly, I only looked for the best option on heraldic mails. I really only did this because most of AoW are 2h/polearm/cav/whatnot. They don't usually use shields. And testing the old banner, the bird was too big, and too low. I changed it so that it would be higher, and look significantly better on heraldic mail. Even if the bird was not mostly on the shields, at least the stripes would be, right?

Yeah the stripes should be.

As an example, check this one in game....I seem to remember the cross on this was pretty much perfectly within the boundaries for heraldic mail and tabard. Could give you some guidlines:
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[Reinhardt]

It would appear that the bird icon is juuust about where the skull of that cross is, and seeing it in-game now the skull is just right on the heraldic mail. I think that this should work out. If the stripes are on the shields and all of it on the heraldic mail, I think it'll look pretty good. So long as the shields don't look blatantly retarded, it'll look good. The heraldic mail was my main concern.

PS: Thanks for your assistance and time, good sir.

[Lannistark]

Hi, Overdriven, our banner does not look nicely on the heraldic mail, kinda pixelled up. Any suggestions so it does not look that bad?

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[Overdriven]

Hi, Overdriven, our banner does not look nicely on the heraldic mail, kinda pixelled up. Any suggestions so it does not look that bad?

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I think it's to do with the fact that the circle there is kind of blury. It might not transfer to well into the game. Maybe try making it a bit sharper?  The eagle seems to look ok on the heraldic mail in game because it's clearer.

[Lannistark]

Maybe deleting the ring would work. Yep, thanks.
I'll make another version soon enough, thanks for your time

EDIT: Ok, re-updated it.

Done, get this replaced with our oldest one as soon as you do another update, thanks a lot Overdriven for your time. 

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[Reinhardt]

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After collaborating with the other leaders (more like tailoring the banner to their desires >.<) we have decided that this banner will be the one.


In the words of Wesley the great: "That last banner, dude, that black one.... fucking.... looks menacing!"

[Overdriven]

Haha does look good. Nice work 

I'll get that and the updated IL banner (prefer it by far without the circle btw) in sometime tomorrow.

[Reinhardt]

I have edited the DDS file myself and shared it with the rest of AoW, just to let them see the banner. We tested it on shields and such. The bird's head is chopped off on most things and the lines are not 100% centered. Only two little imperfections, but ehm. I don't know how to just edit those, rather than re-do the entire banner.

[Overdriven]

The only thing I can suggest is removing a chevron and lowering the bird a little. As for the lines being off center...I'd never have noticed had you not mentioned it.

[Toffi]

Well mate, I am sorry to tell you, but you are using an outdated version of the guard banner, we had an argument about that a few months ago and are now using a new one. Chweck the old threads, it should be somewhere there, I can't find it atm.