Siege Map: Jammadi Castle

[zagibu]

Hmmm, maybe it's time to set up my own server...admins on EU servers seem to be busy.

[Digglez]

I do enjoy this map, but NA server still runs an old version of his map which is not very defender friendly at all. 

I've noticed that attackers have found a way to jump over the left barricade without even needing ladders...which makes defenders job just about impossible.  Plz get ATS to update their version of the map!

the barricade thats between flag wall and outer wall

[zagibu]

Yeah, I've put a barrier there so you can't just jump over anymore on the newest version. I'll post in the NA siege server thread.

[Digglez]

Yeah, I've put a barrier there so you can't just jump over anymore on the newest version. I'll post in the NA siege server thread.

and you use ladder to climb over? A popular and fair tactic is throwing a small ladder backwards to make a stepstool for attackers to get over the barricade.

also, I could swear I saw screenshots of ladders and catwalks for defenders in the inner flag walls.  Was I imagining things or are the screenshots in first thread out of date?

thanks for listening to the suggestion.  do you have links to your other maps? any other siege maps?

[zagibu]

It's harder to storm the inner walls with ladders in the most current version, because there are now barricades in the main road, so you can't directly walk up to them. If you correctly place a medium ladder or larger, or if you walk around a building, it can still be done, but def has a better chance of cutting it down. And yeah, there are catwalks on the inner walls. Also, all rooftops (with exception of keep) are accessible without ladders, if you know how. I think I also added doors in some of the towers and changed the main gate.

I've made 5 siege maps:

Khirin Castle: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,95.msg806.html#msg806
Holmet Castle: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2140.msg35334.html#msg35334
Greipenfurt Castle: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2422.msg40596.html#msg40596
Jammadi Castle: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2448.msg41124.html#msg41124
Ridoma Castle: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3330.msg59736.html#msg59736

Not all of them are perfectly balanced, and there are still some locations where you can get stuck on almost all of them.

[Camaris]

Your masterpiece was khirin castle.
Its one of my favorite maps.
Like Ridoma in its new version too.

[nahilly]

Looking at that list, I think you've built all my favourite maps.  Thanks very much!

[zagibu]

New version up: http://node23.net/jammadi_castle_v5.zip

Added third set of walls around flag, changed some barricades and relocated some entry points. Should be easier to defend now (hopefully not too easy).

[zagibu]

New version up: http://node23.net/jammadi_castle_v5.zip ( http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=3246 )

[Slamz]

This map is still way too easy to attack:
Siege tower to outer wall
Ladder bridge to first building
Ladder bridge to the top of the circular wall
Optional ladder straight to the flag (or just jump down and run around)

You can also do this on the ground but it's easier for defenders to break ground ladders.

A couple simple ideas...

* Add rails to the tops of the buildings.  This will prevent ladders from falling flat (I hope) and make them easier for defenders to attack.
* Add fixed ladders or ramps that lead up to those rooftops from the direction of the flag.  This won't be that useful for attackers but will help defenders get up there and break ladders and defend.  You might even put some defender spawns around these areas so they can sometimes spawn in a handy ladder breaking location.

[zagibu]

Good suggestions, although I think I will probably completely revamp it at some point.