Fix 1h left swing

[BlackMilk]

its ridicolouss. You cant counter it anyhow really apart from go left swing right and that doesnt work against a fast 1hander at all. It sometimes worked when rightswing was viable, but its pretty much unbeatable now (atleast for me). You can counter hiltslashing properly, but you cant counter this technique that almost every single 1hander is using lately. they block your first hit and maybe the second to get in range and then start to spam left swings. If you try to counter it you die/get hit another time due to the (supergay) delay on the beginning of the right swing. opinions?

[Vodner]

1h double leftswings are still counterable, and aren't really unbalanced at all. The pole/2h rightswing changes should be reverted, however.

[Tot.]

Huh? Both polearm left swing and stab will connect way faster than second lefty from the 1h. Why would you even try to do the right swing against someone who's way to your left?

[Xant]

I've noticed that I'm able to spam lots of people with it now since they try to do a rightslash. But like Tot said, that's the wrong move. Still can't spam if someone thrusts or does a left swing.

[Konrax]

Yip pretty much what above posters said, polearm stab is significantly faster then 1h left swing.

And it gets a stun too.

[Ujin]

Huh?

[Christo]

Imo the only thing that can do this really effectively, is the leet spammitar, with it's buggy early attack.

Against other 'common' onehanders, I had no such a problem, this was the only weapon I noticed people use for it reliably.

Might be wrong though, but that's what I've experienced.

[Xant]

You are wrong, yes. Scimitars don't have any earlier attacks than other 1handers.

[Christo]

Not this again.

Of course I'm always wrong, and Mr. Xant knows everything better.

Not going into a debate if possible.

[Tot.]

If anything I'd say that, say, liuyedao would be the prime suspect of being able to actually able to outspam slow polearms swings. But certainly not scimi.

[Xant]

Not this again.

Of course I'm always wrong, and Mr. Xant knows everything better.

Not going into a debate.

Glad you've learnt your lesson 

[Christo]

GTFO.

 

With that attitude.

I have my proof, but it wouldn't matter to you anyway,

Because you know it sooo much better.

Going into a debate with ignorant people isn't worth my time.

[MrShine]

ITT: Christo and Blackmilk are on drugz

[BlackMilk]

1h double leftswings are still counterable

how? please tell me. Tried to stab (used a warspear) and it didn't work really. It was ok sometimes (3 out of 10 cases maybe) but its not a real counter that you can rely on  imo

[Xant]

GTFO.

 

With that attitude.

I have my proof, but it wouldn't matter to you anyway,

Because you know it sooo much better.

Going into a debate with ignorant people isn't worth my time.

You don't have any proof. And yes, I know so much better, as is obvious. I could be mean and let you embarrass yourself by asking for your proof but I'll just tell you right away:

Scimitar doesn't hit any sooner than other 1h. Because of the curved model, it hits before it's own model at the end. See, the scimitar is curved, but the actual hit detection uses a straight sword.