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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2012, 12:42:42 pm »
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im shield user myself 6 points in it, but i want it to be fair for all cav classes as much as possible, even HA ;p ofc cav can do fine on foot, but its not the point of this event, its about cav clash and aiming for the rider not  the innocent god loving pony

there is no restriction on armor as i think it would favorise guys with loomed armors, i think most cav will play in their usual gear (probably loomed), maybe new players will pick something heavier to compensate lack of shield vs ranged, but i would be surprised to see everybody in black armor ;) i always thought cav players got better fashion sense than that ;]

also about the dehorsing rule maybe its not clear but it will work like this :
- you get dehorsed
- enemy that dehorsed you get -2 points for his team
- your decidion
    - join spectator keep the -2 points penalty for the enemy
    - keep fighting, remove penalty from enemy ( i would do that only if there is some free horse nearby )
- if dehorsed by friendly your team gets -2 points without option to cancel it

But I really think you're making it unnecessarily stale. If you'd allow dehorsing then suddenly HA will have an obvious role, and it would make for more *natural* cav combat.

I don't know, but you're advertising it as cav "combat". This just seems more like a more open jousting tourney with HA thrown in. Imho ofc.

Also, I do think you need to address the issue of looms when it comes to HA. Fully loomed HA have a tremendous advantage over their non-loomed counterparts. Why not force STF?

Also, I think the *combat* in general will be very awkward for HA because of the dehorse penalty thing.

Suggestion:

Turn the tables around; give lots of points for dehorsing the enemy instead.


Make it like this:

2 points for killing enemy horse. (Even if the horse was dismounted from and riderless. I.e dismounting = free points for the enemy)

3 points for killing enemy rider while he is on the horse (horse counts as *dead* and team will not receive more points for killing it)

1 point for killing enemy while he is on the ground.

If the entire enemy team is dehorsed/have dismounted then they can not earn points for killing your remaining horses (this enables dehorsed "last stands" while not making it a winning tactic, and not punishing the survivors for charging in with horses)

This way you'll have all-out cav combat without risking dismounted tactics becoming prevalent.

But your choice ofc ;)
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2012, 01:00:09 pm »
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ofc ;] it will stay as is, i got my reasoning for such rules and i think they will bring intented outcome, and maybe this should be in the feedback after the event ;]

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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2012, 01:55:31 pm »
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ofc ;] it will stay as is, i got my reasoning for such rules and i think they will bring intented outcome, and maybe this should be in the feedback after the event ;]

Intended outcome being: finally HA and 2handed cav get to kill something. Since they cannot in battle...ultimately, 1handed cav will own, as usual, especially since in a even numbers fight, lancers cannot do anything without dehorsing, and since map is circular, HA will just ride round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round untill they get a cheap kill, and as usual they will be taking out from infront because they are too busy firing backwards.

Just my Opinion: Ruleset is lame, tourney is lame, have fun khans, you finally get to win something :D
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2012, 02:02:37 pm »
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Me & TomMyyY would be interested in partaking, but it does look like its gunna be a good one for HA's & People with the most manouverable horse.

Still we'll look at getting another guy and put together a team. :)
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2012, 02:18:46 pm »
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Intended outcome being: finally HA and 2handed cav get to kill something. Since they cannot in battle...ultimately, 1handed cav will own, as usual, especially since in a even numbers fight, lancers cannot do anything without dehorsing, and since map is circular, HA will just ride round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round untill they get a cheap kill, and as usual they will be taking out from infront because they are too busy firing backwards.

Just my Opinion: Ruleset is lame, tourney is lame, have fun khans, you finally get to win something :D

yeah i see you got it all worked out in your mind already, you probably also won it already
well good for you!

Me & TomMyyY would be interested in partaking, but it does look like its gunna be a good one for HA's & People with the most manouverable horse.

Still we'll look at getting another guy and put together a team. :)

nice ;] good to see Tommyyy back as cav hehe didnt saw him for a while, and maybe Oberyn would play with you two, would sure be a very powerful mix ;]

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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2012, 02:22:35 pm »
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yeah i see you got it all worked out in your mind already, you probably also won it already
well good for you!

Mate I was having the trophy polished while you were still typing the OP.

Im an archer, and like Mr. Sheen, I win everything all the time.
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2012, 05:11:28 pm »
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This seems like fun, I'm in, if Casimir and Tommy don't find anyone else I can be their third.
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2012, 05:12:54 pm »
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Damn I won't be around this weekend.  Even though it's EU I would have loved to play.  I'll tell my bro about it though, I'm sure he'll sign up.  Maybe I can catch the next one.

BTW that event map looks awesome.
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2012, 05:42:30 pm »
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Policy on picking up weapons from the dead? :P
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2012, 05:48:14 pm »
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We'll see if any Templars are interested as well, if so we'll try and field a team together.

If not we'd be more than happy to have Bloberyn with us :D
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2012, 11:09:30 pm »
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I'll probably sign up, though I would like to test the map before the tournament because it looks like it will kill my pc.

Also, I can imagine a ha versus lancer situation, where the ha can just switch to a melee weapon when the lancer is about to hit him and switch back to bow when he is away.

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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2012, 11:16:32 pm »
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This is ...awesome D: why doesn't this shit never happen in NA :\
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2012, 11:57:27 pm »
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Yep riddaren will be with me and TomMyyY, i'm sure Oberyn can find more cavalry to work with  him though :)
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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2012, 12:08:56 am »
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Looks like a fun little tournament, not too sure about the ruleset either but I'd say just give it a go and see how it works out, these things are usually a lot of fun anyway.

And yeah, Oberyn I would have loved to fight along your side but I just agreed to team up with Riddaren without Casimir's knowledge. Looking forward to fighting you anyway though.

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Re: Khans Extravaganza I - January 22
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2012, 12:12:47 am »
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Hmmm I'm pretty sure a capable team of HA would be able to take out a bunch of 1h shielder cav, but hey, not exactly a new point raised there. Sounds interesting. If you guys do this again when I'm less busy I'd love to participate.
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