A Message to the Citizens of the United States of America

[Kafein]

We don't need to add any intent, bias or goal to a rat wheel either to describe and predict it. Don't mean it has none or that no one put it there.

There's a difference between the rat wheel having an intent on it's own, and something/someone else having an intent in placing the rat wheel somewhere. When you drive a car with the intent of going somewhere, the car still has no intent.

[Xant]

I don't disagree with that.

[Nessaj]

Voting fraud in Iowa and South Carolina?

• Iowa GOP worried by hacker threat to caucus vote (The Seattle Times)
• Iowa GOP moving vote-count to 'undisclosed location' (Politico.com)
• Santorum finished 34 votes ahead of Romney in new Iowa tally; votes from 8 precincts missing (Washington Post)
• No ‘official’ Iowa caucus winner, but Santorum got most votes (Iowa Caucus)
• Did Santorum really win in Iowa? (CNN)
• Iowa GOP Chairman: 8 Iowa Precincts 'Just Weren't Able' to Submit Their Vote Totals (CNS News)
• Attorney General: 900 Dead People Voted In South Carolina (Wyff4 News)
• S.C. Officials to Investigate 900 Dead 'Voters' (EasleyPatch)

How could also Newt Gingrich surge so high in South Carolina, out of nowhere.

• Gingrich cancels South Carolina campaign event, poor attendance (The Associated Press)

Yeah, the South Carolinian's love this man so much that they gave him a landslide victory but no one bothers to show up at his campaign events? Makes sense.


Other related

• 20 Most Corrupt Members Of Congress: Burns, Frist, Santorum, Doolittle, Jefferson, Harris... (Huffington Post)
• Ron Paul leads in Iowa (Public Policy Polling)
• Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed (The Atlantic Wire)
• Ron Paul's Media Blackout Explained (The Atlantic Wire)
• Justice Dept. rejects South Carolina voter ID law, calling it discriminatory (Washington Post)
• Ron Paul receives more donations from soldiers in the military than other GOP candidates and Barack Obama (PolitiFact)
• Ron Paul is far by far the most popular candidate on Twitter (CNN)
• Independent Polling Agency Cap Cats puts Ron Paul at First Place in Iowa with 29% (CPCTCSS.ORG Information Center)

... and most importantly of all, Chuck Norris is a strong Ron Paul supporter!

[Oberyn]

HAHAHAHA Santorum?! They're even more insane than I could possibly have imagined.

[Leshma]

Wiki says:

After running in the bottom tier of candidates for several months, he narrowly won the January 2012 Iowa caucuses,[9] after endorsement by a group of prominent evangelical Christian leaders.

[iron_mat]

Everybody is corrupt, no big deal. It just happens Santorum takes more for some reasons, probably because he's actually out there, doing things and meeting important people. As if you little nerdz wouldn't take the cash wololol

[Angantyr]

Yet, some countries are way more corrupt than others, in a Western context the US and Southern Europe for example.

And where you might, I know I would never be corrupt myself and live with it. Of course you can brew up some extreme cases where I might (some loved one's life in danger and the only remedy is money bla bla bla), but for greed only I'd never do it, nor would a lot of people I know (though a lot probably would, regrettably).

The major problem here in modern politics is the legal corruption, for appearances called 'lobbying'. Of course an organization should be able to lobby for a representative to take up their case in a democracy, but usually it's just a matter of mere bribery. Money buying a policy, ideology and humanism nowhere in sight.


Also, thank you for the interesting links, Cooties, haven't read into voting fraud in the US since it was demonstrated under the Bush elections.

[Kafein]

http://www.worldaudit.org/corruption.htm


North Korea : 149/150

Makes sense

Happy living in 15/10 Belgium

Apart from that, some things are really interesting in this table. Like, a few "enlighted" not-so-democratic countries having good or very good corruption rankings. Like Singapore (I thought they had ok democracy but apparently not), UAE, Buthan, Rwanda (-> lol y u no corrupt ?), Saudi Arabia...

[Fluffy_Muffin]

Lolz Croatia 49/37

[Nessaj]

Also, thank you for the interesting links, Cooties, haven't read into voting fraud in the US since it was demonstrated under the Bush elections.

There's a lot more than what I just pasted though, if you really want to read into it you need to research the actual software used, who made it, who funds it and so on.

Here's a starting point:

• SCYTL Acquires SOE Software, Becoming the Leading Election Software Provider (Market Watch)

SCYTL is currently the worldwide leader in the Internet voting space and the acquisition of SOE Software, with its Clarity election management software suite, significantly expands SCYTL's product portfolio beyond electronic voting. Furthermore, SOE Software's strong US presence with 900 jurisdictions as customers in 26 states, including 14 state-wide customers, complements very effectively SCYTL's customer base in the United States and internationally with customers in over 20 different countries across 5 continents, including France, Spain, Canada, Norway, Switzerland, South Africa, United Arab Emirates, Mexico, India and Australia.

BALTIMORE & TAMPA, Fla., Jan 11, 2012 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- -- SCYTL is the global leader in online voting solutions with a presence in over twenty countries

-- SOE Software is the leading software company for election management solutions in the United States

-- The combination of the two companies creates the industry leader in election software with a strong market presence worldwide

SCYTL, the global leader in secure electronic voting technologies, announced today the acquisition of 100% of SOE Software, the leading software provider of election management solutions in the United States. The integration of these two software companies creates the industry leader in the election software market with a full range of solutions covering from Internet voting to election night reporting and online pollworker training, and a strong market presence worldwide.

In general most people already "shut down" when having to read up on these things though, breaking out of the vicious safety bubble is very scary for the general individual, realizing that there's really no safety net nor an honest government protecting them or their liberties, just a hamster wheel of spending and consuming, and if you're lucky you can spend a bit more than you consume and that's your life.

[iron_mat]

Besides, the people who did the list of most corrupt countries, they are corrupt themselves I'm sure. Also, mega lol at the dude, Agantatyr for saying he'd never be corrupt lol... It's exactly what people say when they enter politics, I sense a bright future in you bro.

[Nessaj]

Facts doesn't lie iron_mat just follow the money.. The simple act of reading a few publicly available documents...

[iron_mat]

I've seen facts lie before, or wrong facts if you prefer. But meh... I didn't read nothing of it anyway, the thought of scaling corruption is kind of dumb I'd say it only points out which country does it openly and which country take bribes more secretly or whatever.

[Kafein]

There's a lot more than what I just pasted though, if you really want to read into it you need to research the actual software used, who made it, who funds it and so on.

Here's a starting point:

• SCYTL Acquires SOE Software, Becoming the Leading Election Software Provider (Market Watch)

In general most people already "shut down" when having to read up on these things though, breaking out of the vicious safety bubble is very scary for the general individual, realizing that there's really no safety net nor an honest government protecting them or their liberties, just a hamster wheel of spending and consuming, and if you're lucky you can spend a bit more than you consume and that's your life.

I don't really get your point there. What's the problem with election software ?

[Nessaj]

The problem is that it is being tampered with and it is becoming increasingly easier to do so.
Just research it a bit, snoop around, you'll see.

If not.

Then maybe I'll do another round of info later on when I have time