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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2012, 12:50:23 am »
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Quote from above quote:

 During the opening of the duel is when you should be working for your best positioning on your opponent and this is therefore your best chance at chamber blocking and catching your opponent by surprise. During the heat of The Dance your positioning is rarely optimal and makes chamber blocking a much lower percentage move.

I fully disagree with this, the opening of the duel mostly involves a lot of holding and dancing in and out at the edge of your/the opponents range, very hard to chamber, and a chance that if you chamber, your opponent might be out of range for your chamberattack. Best moment to chamber is mid fight as soon as you notice your opponent feints a lot, or just does a lot of regular attacks. If you have a decent distance from your opponent and face him, you go in chamber alert mode, wait for his attack and boom.

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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2012, 07:47:28 am »
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It's an old guide, some of the stuff he says is pretty outdated.
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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2012, 08:05:41 am »
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Chambering against shielders frequently gets that "free" hit blocked while against polearms/2handers more likely results in a hit. 

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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2012, 08:34:57 am »
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I'd say it's the opposite, shields are generally slower to block with. Maybe the stun time on weapon being blocked is shorter on 1h, tho.

As to entering combat with a chamber, that depends on how good you are at chambering different things and what you are fighting against. I personally like to enter combat against 2h with a chamber, i know other people that are very good at this too. In mid-combat i find chambering a lot more unreliable with odd angles and animation glitches and whatnot.

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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2012, 01:30:50 pm »
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Chambering in duels and chambering in siege/battle is totally different.

Of course you press the same button and move the mouse the same way but I rarely find myself in a "duel" situation in battle or siege.

In a duel, any serious opponent will be trying to work out the best way to kill you and if you chamber a lot they will just use held attacks. The best people to use chambers on in a duel are the players who arent used to them, but they will probably die to feints and held attacks just as easily (and its a lot safer to use those techniques).

Chambering is safer in battle/siege than in duels as held attacks/feints are just less common. I dont get kills in battle/siege from constant 1v1 situations but by making sure I get a safe hit on an enemy while in a group OR backstabs. I rarely get chamber block kills because I rarely use it and I can only forsee my use of it increasing if I played a lot more and my skill level increased AND flamberge became faster or I started using a faster weapon.

Chamber blocking is best used with faster weapons imo. Players have less time to block it and you have more time to actually perform it (i think?).

Thrust chambers are easier to perform for me but I still fail often.

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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2012, 02:03:49 pm »
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Chamber blocking is best used with faster weapons imo. Players have less time to block it and you have more time to actually perform it (i think?).

Yup. All agility character with max WM and all points in 1h with a long dagger=easy chambering. Instead of blocking, you swing in the direction you would block otherwise and you chamber block instead.

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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2012, 02:59:04 pm »
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if you want to practice go to Nditions duel server on native. they have 4 AI bots you can duel :D trainer who is naked with a wooden stick and then easy medium champion :D
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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2012, 03:50:44 pm »
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Chamber with a morningstar, like a bawwss.
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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2012, 05:29:01 pm »
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The only real use i've found in battle mode for chambering is chambering pikes and such. And even then, only when the attacks are not held.

Chambering is nice, but as soon as the opponent starts holding their attacks a bit, you're as good as dead. :)

I suck at it though.

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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2012, 05:41:22 pm »
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Chambering is nice, but as soon as the opponent starts holding their attacks a bit, you're as good as dead. :)

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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2012, 01:16:12 pm »
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Dont get 1hander.
Because i finaly learned to chamber feints , then i figured that even after the chamber most plain simple outreach you or just block.
It isn't realy worth the risk imo.
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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2012, 07:17:12 pm »
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Get the heaviest guantlets and punch people on the duel server. Good way to learn chambering and even better to master spamming.

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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2012, 07:28:20 pm »
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Can you chamber thrust with kick?

Also Paul, can you implement more damage with kick while you wear heavier foot armor?
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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2012, 08:11:55 pm »
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I wanted to add boot weight extra damage along with the gauntlet stuff but it was vetoed down by the other devs/balancers. Might be to powerful, they have a point there.

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Re: Learning Chambering
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2012, 08:19:03 pm »
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I don't think kickslash needs a buff with boot extra damage, to be honest. Already the most powerful move.
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