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[STATS] Mace
« on: January 06, 2012, 01:18:25 am »
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Mace is needed as a sidearm for ranged.

Fine.

Why knockdown?

Weapon needs a fix ASAP, please.

This feature is idiotic on this weapon.

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 02:23:24 am »
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It's idiotic on most weapons as it's PSEUDO RANDOM. I can live with getting killed thanks to skill, i rage when i die thanks to psuedo random generator ... meh.

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 02:30:58 am »
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Just make it 2 slot ffs
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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 12:47:03 pm »
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It's idiotic on most weapons as it's PSEUDO RANDOM. I can live with getting killed thanks to skill, i rage when i die thanks to psuedo random generator ... meh.

Would it be better if I made it non-determinstic random?

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 01:04:49 pm »
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Would it be better if I made it non-determinstic random?

A bit, can you do it?

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 01:14:55 pm »
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It's idiotic on most weapons as it's PSEUDO RANDOM. I can live with getting killed thanks to skill, i rage when i die thanks to psuedo random generator ... meh.

What do you mean?

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2012, 02:02:36 pm »
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What do you mean?

I mean that skill play minor role in knockdown. You either knockdown or not, and it's based on luck (and weight, and damage done) and it's capped on 40% if i remember correctly. It's even irrelevant what armor victim wear.

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 02:05:05 pm »
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I mean that skill play minor role in knockdown. You either knockdown or not, and it's based on luck (and weight, and damage done) and it's capped on 40% if i remember correctly. It's even irrelevant what armor victim wear.

So it should be based on armour and ps? Like peopel with light stuff always get knockdown and people with plate almost never?

I wouldn't like that personally speaking :/  Would unbalance everything and everyone would start using a knockdown weapon as it would always knockdown most people

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2012, 02:23:26 pm »
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So it should be based on armour and ps? Like peopel with light stuff always get knockdown and people with plate almost never?

I wouldn't like that personally speaking :/  Would unbalance everything and everyone would start using a knockdown weapon as it would always knockdown most people

It should be based on those factors too, and with check if enemy was hit (and for how much) in last few seconds. It shouldn't knockdown in first hit, unless with high ps in the head (so location of hit is important factor, too).

In short, it wouldn't knockdown most people instantly.

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2012, 02:27:06 pm »
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We can use Keshian to provide real random numbers for the kd script.

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2012, 02:39:24 pm »
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It should be based on those factors too, and with check if enemy was hit (and for how much) in last few seconds. It shouldn't knockdown in first hit, unless with high ps in the head (so location of hit is important factor, too).

In short, it wouldn't knockdown most people instantly.

Ah ok, misunderstood it.

Yeah, good suggestion I think

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2012, 03:03:09 pm »
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Btw, I also want to add that this weapon is too strong for the price it costs, etc etc.

I am sure devĀ“s are "brainstorming" on a solution for that allready!


Thanks in advance and happy weekend!

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2012, 03:24:16 pm »
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The current idea is to call Keshian everytime a knockdown is to be decided. Then we ask him to provide two "facts" of two topics of his choice. Such as NA/EU relative cRPG population, UIF troop strength, etc. Then we compare both numbers and if the first is greater than the second number, it's a knockdown.
PRNG < TRNG < Kesh generator
« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 03:28:08 pm by Paul »

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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2012, 03:26:47 pm »
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Re: [STATS] Mace
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 03:49:50 pm »
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