Lance vs. Heavy Lance for Cav

[Raubgraf]

Hi, I'm planning a lance cav and was wondering which lance to choose.

I thought normal Lance would be better than Heavy Lance, as it has 2+ on pierce damage and is significantly faster. But every good lance cav seems to use the Heavy Lance, is it the +10 weapon length that makes such a difference?

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

length is everything (thats what she said).

Superior damage and speed of the lance will be useless when you get hit first by a heavy lance. And at that speed, your going down

[CrazyCracka420]

Heavy lance is best lance.  I wouldn't consider using a lance because if you end up going head to head vs an equally matched opponent with a heavy lance, chances are you're going to lose because of the length. 

Also since they changed the lance radius to about 45 degrees in front of your horse, having less length can really hurt you.  Lots of 2h swords can outreach you when they stab because you have to basically ride directly into them (and you can't peel off at the last second like you used to be able to do and create some separation between your horses head and the enemy.

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

Heavy lance, for above reasons

[SirCymro_Crusader]

I would recommend the heavy lance.

Ive been using the lance and any skilled cav with a heavy lance tops you every time if he doesnt kill you your horse is sure to feel the pain, length is everything for cav, (but dont use the jousting lance)

[Raubgraf]

Great, convincing arguments. Thanks

[Kabookie]

Length is best.
Take note though, the MW warspear has 1 more point in pierce damage than my MW heavy lance! Good for up close encounters.

[Senni__Ti]

Depends on your playstyle, saw a couple of GK members use a light lance to great success with a highly maneauverable horse.

[CrazyCracka420]

Heavy lance is best lance.  I wouldn't consider using a lance because if you end up going head to head vs an equally matched opponent with a heavy lance, chances are you're going to lose because of the length. 

Also since they changed the lance radius to about 45 degrees in front of your horse, having less length can really hurt you.  Lots of 2h swords can outreach you when they stab because you have to basically ride directly into them (and you can't peel off at the last second like you used to be able to do and create some separation between your horses head and the enemy.

Sorry for necro'ing this thread...

Oh how the mighty (heavy lance) have fallen...

After using it for a couple weeks after the damage nerf to the heavy lance I finally traded for a MW lance (traded my MW Heavy Lance and +1 wisby gauntlets for a MW lance).

I think it's far superior now to the heavy lance, I generally try to avoid head on 1v1'ing other cavalry unless I see they have a lance as well, or unless I'm able to juke or change speeds to throw them off.

it's still great versus other cav, just not head on, and I think it's superior vs infantry due to the 10 more speed, and the 31p (compared to 26p on a MW heavy lance).

I also noticed in strat battles the Heavy Lance is fucking weak as shit at 23p (unless you and another cav are going head on) and the lance is a much better option at 28p default.

I'd suggest people ditch their heavy lance for a regular lance or grab a great lance (seriously they're really good for strafing infantry lines in strat)

[polkafranzi]

I also noticed in strat battles the Heavy Lance is fucking weak as shit

Archers don't even bother to jump out of way of it's couch anymore, does like 30% dmg 

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Then one bodkin does 70% to your rouncey.  GG

[pepejul]

I prefer lance.... but i m not cav =) 

[Lannistark]

Superior damage and speed of the lance will be useless when you get hit first by a heavy lance. And at that speed, your going down

Forget about this.

length is everything (thats what she said).

That's all you need to hear.

[donib]

Ive always been using the regular lance, and ive been pretty effective with it

[BlueKnight]

Due to bigger speed of lance (+for lance) and way of holding lances which gives you ~7 length difference (+ to heavy lance), lance is better.
It is easier to time a hit with a lance (especially in 1vs1), you have vast more damage, it is cheaper and when you are dismounted, it ain't shit.

Lance for surprise-rise2012. 2012 is not over yet, we still have 1 day to choose winner before world ends.

[CrazyCracka420]

Due to bigger speed of lance (+for lance) and way of holding lances which gives you ~7 length difference (+ to heavy lance), lance is better.
It is easier to time a hit with a lance (especially in 1vs1), you have vast more damage, it is cheaper and when you are dismounted, it ain't shit.

Lance for surprise-rise2012. 2012 is not over yet, we still have 1 day to choose winner before world ends.

I've been noticing a lot more cavalry lancers using the regular lance now from horseback.  Even a non-loomed lance is arguably better than a MW Heavy Lance.