Author Topic: Did they change the 2h right swing?  (Read 20739 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Leesin

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1009
  • Infamy: 230
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Leesin
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #120 on: January 04, 2012, 01:33:26 pm »
+1
So they want to 'fix' hiltslashing yet polestun remains where players are able to basically get a free hit if they hit you once and polestun you, I've never had a problem with 2h at all, yet it is lame as hell when someone can hit you once with a polearm, then you are basically unable to do anything as they hit you again.

Offline Vibe

  • Vibrator
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 2528
  • Infamy: 615
  • cRPG Player Madam White Queen A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #121 on: January 04, 2012, 01:34:26 pm »
0
I noticed is straight away when I joined the duel server yesterday (after several weeks pause though). Like Quantum said, the right swing flickers at the start of animation.
Also several of my swings got literally stuck in chamber and I had to click again to release swing.

How about you revert this until you implement the new solution? (I don't agree with dumbing down combat by removing hiltslash, but fine, don't really care)
« Last Edit: January 04, 2012, 01:36:02 pm by Vibe »

Offline cmp

  • M:BG Developer
  • Supreme Overlord
  • *******
  • Renown: 2052
  • Infamy: 569
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • IRC nick: cmp
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #122 on: January 04, 2012, 01:35:49 pm »
+1
Not only is the swing slower, it feels like the chamber animation is slower as well and this obviously affects feints and normal attacks.

See, this is exactly what I mean. Only the chamber animation was changed, yet you somehow came to the conclusion that swing is slower as well (which it isn't). Autosuggestion much?

Offline Endo

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 2
  • Infamy: 2
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #123 on: January 04, 2012, 01:51:55 pm »
0
Autosuggestion much?

Hardly. Since I didn't see anyone else in the thread mentioning the strange chamber animation (until now) I assumed it was the swing itself which was slower.

Anyway, I don't think it's the slower swings which are causing so much butthurt right now, rather the way in which it was implemented. The 2H right swing really seems odd now, and it messes with your rhythm when you're fighting for your life. For comparison, I played with a polearm alt last night and the swing felt the same as always, which is an important point. Changing the way combat feels makes the change more noticeable and harder to deal with.

Offline cmp

  • M:BG Developer
  • Supreme Overlord
  • *******
  • Renown: 2052
  • Infamy: 569
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • IRC nick: cmp
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #124 on: January 04, 2012, 01:56:54 pm »
0
It feels perfectly fine to me. It may feel weird to you because you played the class for a very long time and got used to it so that you notice even the slightest change.
Archers had their entire set of animations replaced, I'm sure you can get used to this little change if you give it some time.

Offline Endo

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 2
  • Infamy: 2
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #125 on: January 04, 2012, 01:57:59 pm »
0
Of course, but couldn't it be a little smoother?

Offline Xant

  • Finnish Pony
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1552
  • Infamy: 803
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #126 on: January 04, 2012, 01:58:31 pm »
0
NO
Meaning lies as much
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.

Offline Camaris

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 223
  • Infamy: 56
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: HRE
  • Game nicks: Neresto_HRE
  • IRC nick: Neresto_HRE
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #127 on: January 04, 2012, 02:29:07 pm »
+1
Actually i dont like it.
I will adapt though. Until the next of countless 2h nerfs.
You cant stop us cmp.

Offline cmp

  • M:BG Developer
  • Supreme Overlord
  • *******
  • Renown: 2052
  • Infamy: 569
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • IRC nick: cmp
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #128 on: January 04, 2012, 02:31:55 pm »
+1
You cant stop us cmp.

Nice try, but you must play 2h for at least 2 months in a row to join the 2h lobby.

Offline Freland

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 172
  • Infamy: 14
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: The Fallen Brigade
  • Game nicks: Freland
  • IRC nick: Freland
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #129 on: January 04, 2012, 02:35:55 pm »
0
So they want to 'fix' hiltslashing yet polestun remains where players are able to basically get a free hit if they hit you once and polestun you, I've never had a problem with 2h at all, yet it is lame as hell when someone can hit you once with a polearm, then you are basically unable to do anything as they hit you again.

Basically this. A rather small problem like hiltslashing (which can still be blocked) gets addressed but the ridicolous polestun stays in the game.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

each time you click the button, crpg gains popularity :D

Offline cmp

  • M:BG Developer
  • Supreme Overlord
  • *******
  • Renown: 2052
  • Infamy: 569
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • IRC nick: cmp
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #130 on: January 04, 2012, 02:47:37 pm »
+2
Basically this. A rather small problem like hiltslashing (which can still be blocked) gets addressed but the ridicolous polestun stays in the game.

I didn't know polestun went through blocks...

Offline Vibe

  • Vibrator
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 2528
  • Infamy: 615
  • cRPG Player Madam White Queen A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #131 on: January 04, 2012, 02:48:35 pm »
+1
He didn't say it goes through blocks, but polestagger+sidestep makes it pretty much unblockable.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2012, 02:49:49 pm by Vibe »

Offline Xant

  • Finnish Pony
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1552
  • Infamy: 803
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #132 on: January 04, 2012, 02:52:28 pm »
0
I didn't know polestun went through blocks...

IT'S ME, A CMP!

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Meaning lies as much
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.

Offline Fartface

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 476
  • Infamy: 288
  • cRPG Player
  • Centurii
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Deathcore,Djentcore,Deathmetal,Brutal,Slam
  • Game nicks: Growling,Grunting,Screaming,Squeeling
  • IRC nick: Fuck I love it.
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #133 on: January 04, 2012, 02:58:23 pm »
0
2h is so bad right now:S
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Candiru

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 54
  • Infamy: 26
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: 22nd_War_Candiru
Re: Did they change the 2h right swing?
« Reply #134 on: January 04, 2012, 03:14:54 pm »
+1
I am saddened that an impartial player like Phyrex, known for having mastered all classes and his versatility in play styles, would think that of me. It definitely means I did something wrong.

I am saddened because he's right :D
Human being to the mob..
What’s a mob to a king? What’s a king to a god?
What’s a god to a non-believer? Who don’t believe in anything?