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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2011, 01:31:11 pm »
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#1 is a must

#2 isn't the answer imo.  Just knock 50 gold of all Strat prices and go from there.  If this change drops an items cost to 0 or below then give it a price of 0.01 gold.

As it stands a initial army equipment list for 50 troops looks like:
50 Rawhide Coats
50 Felt Hats
50 Wrapping Boots
10 Hide Covered Shields
10 Light Spiked Clubs
15 Scythes
15 Axes
10 Short Bows
30 Arrows

Total Cost: 1666.8 gold

With this system the same equipment would only cost 2.4 gold :D and for approx 1600 gold you would be able to buy the following
50 Padded Armour
50 Segmented Helmet
50 Mail Chausses
10 Plain Round Shields
10 One Handed Axes
15 Shortened Spear
15 Maul
10 Bows
30 Barbed Arrows

which is good basic gear.  The expensive items meanwhile get less of a discount % and so remain rare.

#5 is good but not essential for a Strat wipe imo as it is merely annoying rather than game breaking when you get chadz text whilst using the wrong gear.  In the future perhaps but not now.

#3 - The best thing they can do in Strat to nerf archers is change it so that 1 quiver = 1 weapon and therefore carrying 3 quivers per bow requires you to use crates and slows you down.  Same with bolts.  Ranged weapons are not overpowered themselves, it is the ammount of ammo they get that gives them the huge advantage.  This also gives a nice defensive bonus for fiefs as they can store arrows without needing crates.

#4 is essential but the only good ideas i've seen for doing this are to have AI factions for people to join with permanent wars and alliances.  Each faction is run by an AI king and members earn renown from fighting.  The top X players based on renown get fief ownership.   Renown will naturally decay if you don't do anything, and clans within the AI factions could help to give the clan leaders a % boost to all renown they earn to help keep them on top.  Finally, each faction could have an overall troop limit that then limits all faction members according to their renown but with a min of 50 troops per member.  E.g. A faction gets 20000 troops max and has 100 members with 50 renown each.  Everybody therefore gets a max troop limit of 200.  If 50 of those members do nothing and end up with 0 renown whilst the other 50 get to 200 renown then the first 50 will end up limited to 50 troops, whilst the 2nd 50 will be limited to 350 troops.  Its a simple reward system that encourages activity and also encourages people to join smaller factions to gain power quicker.

#6 - 100% agree

#7 - would also like to see this, but not a priority for me


« Last Edit: December 27, 2011, 01:33:33 pm by Tomas »

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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2011, 05:11:52 pm »
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First and for most chadz have to decide where he want to go with this, is it a trading game or a war game ? As of now its a trade game. Make gold from cRPG and make it so 2 hours every day is at least more profit in 2 hours every day playing then 1 afk multiaccount is doing farming trade goods.

I salute the EU/NA split tho i think that 150 ping is something that doesn't belong in our time and all players should be spared for.
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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2011, 06:05:53 pm »
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First and for most chadz have to decide where he want to go with this, is it a trading game or a war game ? As of now its a trade game. Make gold from cRPG and make it so 2 hours every day is at least more profit in 2 hours every day playing then 1 afk multiaccount is doing farming trade goods.

I salute the EU/NA split tho i think that 150 ping is something that doesn't belong in our time and all players should be spared for.

The NA/EU split was never really about ping though as you were never forced to fight with 150 ping.  Only the defender is forced to fight and the defender determined the ping in the past anyway so this was never an issue.  The problem was that the attacker determined the time and in NAvsEU fights a good time for the attacker is usually a bad time for the defender.

The NA/EU split has not solved this issue though since the more active/driven clans have been able to use the split combined with the nighttimes in order to force battles at silly times in the hope of gaining a player number advantage. 

Thinking about this further it means that people are the actual problem rather than the NA/EU split itself so perhaps a better option would be the introduction of server primtetimes.  Fiefs can only be attacked during a server primetime and a fief owners nighttime does not apply to the fief anymore so they are always open to attack during primetime.  Otherwise the game continues as it is however I would add a feature where a fief owner can change the server of their fief and therefore the primetime.  For instance, if an EU clan attacks an NA fief during NA primetime and wins then they can switch it to an EU fief (takes 1 week to come into effect) and vice versa.  The 1 week time frame gives an opportunity for other NA clans to strike back and also prevents other server abuse.

Raiding of fiefs will of course be allowed at any time to keep fief owners on their toes :D
« Last Edit: December 27, 2011, 06:07:08 pm by Tomas »

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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2011, 06:11:19 pm »
+2

#5 is good but not essential for a Strat wipe imo as it is merely annoying rather than game breaking when you get chadz text whilst using the wrong gear.  In the future perhaps but not now.


I tried to get my crafting in horse up this strat - The plan was great except i would get the message 2 seconds after being de-horsed and thus wouldnt get any bonus to crafting my horses and instead i would lose all crafting bonus i had already in horses because of the way the system works(heh).

So the random luck of getting the message combined with your circumstance as you get the message does break the whole crafting thing. Heaven forbid you pick up a polearm to deal with a cav or have your shield broken ooops there goes all thine hard work.
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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2011, 07:33:23 pm »
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The NA/EU split was never really about ping though as you were never forced to fight with 150 ping.  Only the defender is forced to fight and the defender determined the ping in the past anyway so this was never an issue.

Eh, what? So you're saying that it's completely fine if you can't attack at all then? You're not going to win a war by just defending...
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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2011, 07:45:28 pm »
+1
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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2011, 08:46:25 pm »
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Just wipe everything, and I mean EVERYTHING

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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2011, 06:18:53 am »
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Honestly I think the NA/EU should be completely split or not split at all. 4AM battles will always happen because people are total dicks and it is expected.

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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2011, 07:12:42 am »
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I would also like it to be split.  Speeding up the game and putting a time limit would make life way more exciting.
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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2011, 09:24:40 am »
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If its split ill join NA, seems more interesting than fighting the same roster on EU again and again...

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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2011, 09:40:20 am »
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If its split ill join NA, seems more interesting than fighting the same roster on EU again and again...

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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2011, 10:38:56 am »
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Amen!!!

Its like the dark side and the light side.  if you want any fun you need to join the sith, because whatever else, they at least know how to have a good time.  Good side is too full of luke sywalker clones.

Well that isn't really true, the only good war on NA side has been Hospitallers/Occitan and EU friends vs Fallen, and I count the Fallen as an EU clan mainly so..

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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2011, 10:50:42 am »
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Whatever is done do not merge EU/NA again, if there can't be two maps then a split map is highly preferred.

Not that I didn't enjoy fighting a few NA battles, granted, but with the time differences (and the abuse of it) it will simply just lead to a worse game experience and even more bickering overall.


If there's some changes ready for Strat, wipe it imo, if not, then just wipe it anyway and let NA/EU switch regions on the map.
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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2011, 11:07:57 am »
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Whatever is done do not merge EU/NA again, if there can't be two maps then a split map is highly preferred.

Not that I didn't enjoy fighting a few NA battles, granted, but with the time differences (and the abuse of it) it will simply just lead to a worse game experience and even more bickering overall.


If there's some changes ready for Strat, wipe it imo, if not, then just wipe it anyway and let NA/EU switch regions on the map.

 I think the best way is:

Two separate continents for eu and na, and a small island between them
with some "object" (tower ^^), which give a bonus. and allow the fight for him only on weekends.
And change nighttime system from "8 h for sleep" to "8h for fight" (for battles >>>> 500 only). The leader of each faction can choose the time for the whole fractions.
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Re: Strat Suggestions (wipe?)
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2011, 12:38:32 pm »
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And change nighttime system from "8 h for sleep" to "8h for fight" (for battles >>>> 500 only). The leader of each faction can choose the time for the whole fractions.

Implement this already please!
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