What Religion are you?

[Xant]

Atheism is just as bad imo as religion:  They're both a rigid belief without virtue of proof (lack of proof otherwise is not the same thing as valid proof of your theory, sorry) and unwilling to bend, change or otherwise alter that belief because something doesn't fit it's dogmatic mold.

What? No. I have a hard time even understanding how you could believe something like that... do you think it's silly to believe that Santa Claus can't really fly? Are you unwilling to bend, change or otherwise alter that belief if you don't believe in him and his flying reindeer?

[Draedan]

omg this thread is sigh worthy.
Well everyone has already covered the silliness of the major religions so far.

Satanism:  Just as pointless and retarded as christianity itself.  I talked to some members of the church of satan when I was a teen and going through my soul-searching period.  It's a trite hypocritical dogma based on narcissism.  For one thing how can you ever respect someone that calls himself a satanist and yet is against rape, murder, child abuse, etc.  Sorry, this is satan here, if anything those act should be praised and celebrated by the church of SATAN on high.   for instance.

What a crock of shit.  Sorry.

Atheism is just as bad imo as religion:  They're both a rigid belief without virtue of proof (lack of proof otherwise is not the same thing as valid proof of your theory, sorry) and unwilling to bend, change or otherwise alter that belief because something doesn't fit it's dogmatic mold.

This whole thing is silly, however props to the OP for the blatantly obvious troll-bait that has gone on this far.  It never ceases to amaze me how well this classic works.  Next will be the political discussion thread right?  lol

And that's why I'm Nihilistic.

[AgentQ]

Iam an spiritual Satanist. Follower of the CoS, founded by Anton Szandor Lavey.
Hails.

a follower you are. Me, my friend, is going to pwn your god and make you ma biatch!

[Gorath]

What? No. I have a hard time even understanding how you could believe something like that... do you think it's silly to believe that Santa Claus can't really fly? Are you unwilling to bend, change or otherwise alter that belief if you don't believe in him and his flying reindeer?

You're arguing about something unrelated to what we're talking about:  Atheism

Atheism is a dogmatic rigid belief that it is completely impossible that there is any kind of dietific power in the universe period.  Any acknowledgment that there is even a possibility of what we in our limited understanding would classify as a supernatural power somewhere in the infinite is against the atheist belief system, no wiggle room.  It's not a matter of "The christian god doesn't exist.  Or muslim, or (insert specific dietific name/title here" but a rigid believe that the possibility for any deitific power in any form does not exist anywhere in any form.  Which for all intents and purposes includes the possibility of alien beings/intercessions capable of feats (whether through technology or evolutionary capacity) dietific in appearance.

Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.  Atheism is contrasted with theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists and agnosticism which acknowledges the possibility that a diety could exist.

[Rextard]

Religious and spiritual labels are just another shortcut way for humans to justify negative or simplifying thoughts or actions towards another. People come down on one another for representing a common label 'poorly', or for not having the 'right' label at all. Labels try to define a big picture, but even amongst people of the same religion/beliefs the big picture is not the same, unless they spoon feed on what they're told without contemplation. To know what being ______ means to one person, you have to dig and find out what their smaller more discrete beliefs/moralities are, in relation to what _____ is 'supposed' to make you believe.

After a point, belief is not worth arguing over. It can only be held in the face of doubt, not in the blinding glare of truth. I find it much more interesting to contemplate the similarities between belief systems than to become mired in their differences

Assholes make things shitty for any group, including religious/spiritual/belief groups. Assholes also have a propensity for getting into groups, to use the association to raise their assholery to new heights. Assholery crosses all lines, and is the true problem that humanity has faced since the dawn of civilization.

Stalin, was one of the biggest assholes ever to live. Don't forget the ~7 million Ukrainians he genocided by starvation. He was an egomaniac who had people taken out of pictures as he had them 'removed' from society or life. Stalin was a Stalinist, his regime was a cult of personality veiled behind Socialism.

Marx didn't have the worst ideas about how people should get along. Noone can really mask how easily people corrupt something good, given power. Also, if you read about Marx's life, you'll figure out he was kind of a scrub.

The only people-labeling system I've ever needed is: "asshole" or "duder".

[Xant]

You're arguing about something unrelated to what we're talking about:  Atheism

Atheism is a dogmatic rigid belief that it is completely impossible that there is any kind of dietific power in the universe period.  Any acknowledgment that there is even a possibility of what we in our limited understanding would classify as a supernatural power somewhere in the infinite is against the atheist belief system, no wiggle room.  It's not a matter of "The christian god doesn't exist.  Or muslim, or (insert specific dietific name/title here" but a rigid believe that the possibility for any deitific power in any form does not exist anywhere in any form.  Which for all intents and purposes includes the possibility of alien beings/intercessions capable of feats (whether through technology or evolutionary capacity) dietific in appearance.

Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.  Atheism is contrasted with theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists and agnosticism which acknowledges the possibility that a diety could exist.

See, there are different definitions for atheism. I imagine most people here are talking about the Christian, Muslim and whatever gods when they say they're atheists.

Personally, I'm either an atheist or an agnostic, depending on the definition. Atheist as in I know as surely as I can that the god of bible/qoran is bullshit, and agnostic in the sense that I do not know if there is a "godlike" being out there.

[Gorath]

See, there are different definitions for atheism. I imagine most people here are talking about the Christian, Muslim and whatever gods when they say they're atheists.

Personally, I'm either an atheist or an agnostic, depending on the definition. Atheist as in I know as surely as I can that the god of bible/qoran is bullshit, and agnostic in the sense that I do not know if there is a "godlike" being out there.

No, these are just the definitions of the words:
Theism:  Diety(ies) exist [absolute]
Atheism:  Diety(ies) do not exist [absolute]
Agnosticism: Diety(ies) could exist

Essentially there's only three real beliefs:  Yes, no or maybe.  Everything else is simply dogma (seperating into various "different" religions and so forth).

[ManOfWar]

In this day and age, how many people do you think are "in the closet" atheists?

[Gorath]

In this day and age, how many people do you think are "in the closet" atheists?

I don't think their sexual orientation has much bearing on the subject at hand.

Well, except that most every religion persecutes them which would lead to a higher number of "in the closet" athiests I suppose.

[ManOfWar]

I don't think their sexual orientation has much bearing on the subject at hand.

Well, except that most every religion persecutes them which would lead to a higher number of "in the closet" athiests I suppose.

Dam you, you know that I am not referring to their sexual orientation, I am just using that phrase to get my point across

[Siiem]

get my point across

tsk tsk tsk dirty, dirty boy.

[Franklin]

No, these are just the definitions of the words:
Theism:  Diety(ies) exist [absolute]
Atheism:  Diety(ies) do not exist [absolute]
Agnosticism: Diety(ies) could exist

Essentially there's only three real beliefs:  Yes, no or maybe.  Everything else is simply dogma (seperating into various "different" religions and so forth).

Taoism:  Who gives a shit. 

[Phazey]

Atheism is just as much a belief system as any given religion is. And its just as culturally influenced, too.

That is also, by definition not true. "Not playing tennis" is not a sport, "being bald" is no haircolour and "not having sex" is not satisfying.

  Well put!

It's so refreshing to have someone actualy make sense for a change on these forums.

Atheism is NOT a religion. Quite the opposite: it's the absence of it. No 'leaps of faith' required. Thank god.

[Vance]

Atheism is about the absence of belief in gods, not religions. Buddhism is an atheist religion, for example.

Agnosticism can either atheistic or theistic, or neither. It's not about gods, it's about knowledge.

If you have no faith in the existence of a god then you are an atheist.

If you have faith in the existence of a god, you are a theist.

I'm an irreligious atheist agnostic.

[ManOfWar]

That is also, by definition not true. "Not playing tennis" is not a sport, "being bald" is no haircolour and "not having sex" is not satisfying.


  Well put!

It's so refreshing to have someone actualy make sense for a change on these forums.

Atheism is NOT a religion. Quite the opposite: it's the absence of it. No 'leaps of faith' required. Thank god.

Amen! lol...