What Religion are you?

[Alex_C]

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THE SUSPENSE!!! I CAN'T HANDLE THE SUSPENSE MAN!!!!

[Xant]

Saying atheism has caused wars or genocide is completely ridiculous. Unless you suggest that Stalin went "Oh, the gods of the religions do not exist... which leads me to the logical conclusion that I must slaughter people!" That has nothing to do with atheism. In no way or form does atheism suggest anything of the like. It's a negative belief. Just like not collecting stamps isn't a hobby, atheism is not a religion. All it implies is that a person does not believe in a fictional entity - it doesn't try to feed you any bullshit or moral guidelines. In fact, it's pretty ridiculous and I find it amusing when people actively define/introduce themselves as atheists. Kind of like going around saying you're an antisantaclausist. (Not that saying you're an atheist is ridiculous in this thread; I mean generally. "Atheism" can get to silly levels when people start thinking of themselves as "priests" of atheism.)

[AgentQ]

heretics rule CRPG 

[Teeth]

Agreed. Anyone ever heard of Palestine?
People so shrouded in bliss and ignorance. Watch the news! (Not fox-news)

The news you watch is incredibly onesided. Although Israel does a lot wrong, I think their behaviour is nothing more than reasonable, because they are surrounded by countries that, qouting Ahmadinejad, want to blow Israel into the sea.

[Christo]

The news you watch is incredibly onesided. Although Israel does a lot wrong, I think their behaviour is nothing more than reasonable, because they are surrounded by countries that, qouting Ahmadinejad, want to blow Israel into the sea.

Yeah, blocking Gaza, letting them to starve, and shooting kids is reasonable.

[Seranoth]

I think its sad that there are people, who belief in nothing. Thats only because they are just too ignorant and interested in nothing.
Poor lost souls. All they get is only random fate. But thats life- its just fair.

Iam an spiritual Satanist. Follower of the CoS, founded by Anton Szandor Lavey.
I love the Nature and to be a Human. I love my friends and destroy my enemys. Iam a God, a friend of Satan, the name of the human nature.
Pro humanity! Contra all for the humanity harmful things on the earth.
Iam a warrior on the spiritual level. I never break any laws, my weapon is the mind. (Thats the reason i play as a ninja here ;D)
You want to be my friend? No problem- you are now my friend. Dont be afaid- i am a loyal and esteeming ally for long times.
But if you going to be my enemy- Thats would be sad- then expect your destruction and infinite pain in your mendacious short life.

Hails.

[Alex_C]

Follower of the CoS

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[Seranoth]

CoS = Church of Satan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Satan
http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

[Teeth]

After reading your wikipedia page, how do you destroy someone when he bothers you and doesnt stop? Do you rain fire from the sky?

[Mouse]

I think its sad that there are people, who belief in nothing.

I believe in science, reason, and the beauty of natural order that produced life and human emotion.

I think it's sad that there are people who believe in something that isn't true, that there is a gigantic magic person in the sky just waiting to punish them with his (always his, for some reason) fiery -ahem- "rod" of justice.

[Seranoth]

After reading your wikipedia page, how do you destroy someone when he bothers you and doesnt stop? Do you rain fire from the sky?

No, to get rid of someone who bothers me i would only invest the energy of using my fists, or calling police, or do whatever all others would do. Energy of your will is valuably and you only have a limited amount of this power per day- powers which should be invested in your lifegoals and wantings.

This kind of magic tricks like fire from sky is not very effective and would cost enourmous energy of willpower, commitment and time(maybe weeks), as well as the result would be only a explainable Event to you, like a exploding engine of a plain or a big meteorshower which was pronounced- that would be a gigantic waste of the energy of a living human. Its more easier and effective to hold a general destruction ritual over time against the enemy and let the universe decide by itself, how the suspect get hurt or destroyed. besides- it should be in accordance with the conscience of the executing magician, because the target could die...

[Xant]

wat

[DrKronic]

Posting a definition of atheism refutes none of my points to seperate marxs theories from their actual real world implementation is also denying reality, I can only assume u feel that capititalism has caused no suffering or wars also right?  since its just some theory/idea/belief along with religion

If Webster dictionary has all the answers, I feel so sad that I've wasted so much time reading history

Oh btw the way its defended/portrayed in this thread Socialism qualifies as a religion as well

Sorry for messing with your prophet Marx lol

And religion being seen as a opiate of the people and then religious people in every major socialist regime being labeled as dissenters and being either killed, imprisoned or outlawed ? Go ask websters dictionary I am sure there's a great answer there for you

Find the definition for clueless and denial and come back

And saying that stalinism marxism communism socialism are not the same is equal to saying lutherens and baptists worship two completely different gods

In both cases the differences are minor (as in stalinism is naughty socialism, while socialism is pure win right, unless its national socialism or the way almost 99% of revolutions enacted)

Either way same manifesto or bible, any philosophy elevated in such a manner perpetuates ignorance the same as clinging stubbornly to a religion

Btw I have his manifesto on the same rack as my bible and quran and other works of pure fantasy utopias

Not just religious people, anybody suspected of dissent. So were these religious people killed because they were religious, or were they killed because they were dissenters?

(From dictionary.com)
Atheism:

1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Firstly, I take issue with sense 1. Sense 2 is the true - and most literal - meaning of atheism. Regardless, there is nothing in either about genocide, and there is nothing there about Karl Marx. Don't conflate Stalinism (which is not even Marxism) with atheism. Atheism, unlike ALL religions has no creed. You do not have to do anything, there is no network of interdependent beliefs, there are no rites or rituals and there are no holy books, prophets, divine messengers, beings or devils or demons whose messages can be interpreted or misinterpreted. Atheism is just disbelief. How you get from a disbelief in deities to genocides - I do not know.

And all those deaths had nothing to do with Socialism, they were the result of tyrants wanting absolute authority over the people they ruled. But let's not digress - this isn't a topic about Socialism.

[woody]

Wrote a complicated response but decided against posting - not the thread/forum for a real debate. So hear goes a stupid one.

Bottom line - read the bible.

Supposed entity that commits mass genocide because they dont worship him enough?

The God of the bible was the original genocidal ego maniac and thats according to his own marketing material.

Atheism is not a belief system. A belief system is where there is no evidence but you believe anyway ie every religion.

Atheism is the same as not believing in the Easter Bunny/Homeopathy. Would you call someone who did not believe in these a believer? And if you believe in Homeopathy yes there is God, the Tooth Fairy will leave a coin for your old molars and please, please, please for the sake of all the little pixies never vote again.

[Gorath]

omg this thread is sigh worthy.
Well everyone has already covered the silliness of the major religions so far.

Satanism:  Just as pointless and retarded as christianity itself.  I talked to some members of the church of satan when I was a teen and going through my soul-searching period.  It's a trite hypocritical dogma based on narcissism.  For one thing how can you ever respect someone that calls himself a satanist and yet is against rape, murder, child abuse, etc.  Sorry, this is satan here, if anything those act should be praised and celebrated by the church of SATAN on high. 

9. Do not harm little children.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

for instance.

What a crock of shit.  Sorry.

Atheism is just as bad imo as religion:  They're both a rigid belief without virtue of proof (lack of proof otherwise is not the same thing as valid proof of your theory, sorry) and unwilling to bend, change or otherwise alter that belief because something doesn't fit it's dogmatic mold.

This whole thing is silly, however props to the OP for the blatantly obvious troll-bait that has gone on this far.  It never ceases to amaze me how well this classic works.  Next will be the political discussion thread right?  lol