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Which faith do you adhere to? (these are in no particular order)

Protestant Christian or Catholicism (christ followers)
135 (24%)
Buddhist or Hinduism
11 (2%)
Islam or Judaism
33 (5.9%)
Baha'i faith/ other cultural religion
3 (0.5%)
Non-Religious (atheist/agnostic)
328 (58.3%)
Wiccan, Voodo, or something else like it (magical discipline)
41 (7.3%)
Gnostic or other religious non-theistic discipline
12 (2.1%)

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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2011, 12:36:14 pm »
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Im a loser, a sinner and a cock in a dildo disguise.

So i quess i am all aboves choices.

Non-Religious (atheist,agnostic, former believer) Funny how this is one of the choices.... for those people still in need to tag themself and sit in a box.

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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2011, 06:32:49 pm »
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But Christianity isn't a 'different take' on the God of Abraham? If you're classing Islam and Judaism as Abrahamic religions, then Christianity should be in the same group too.

yes. you are right. i put that too... this is meant to be a Poll, not a place were people look at it, stand around in a big circle and say "gee, your on the danger line pal. this is wrong in x way or you're wrong in x way. someone might get offended"

please keep Speculation to yourselves! 


like this thread, i cant take responsibility for how everyone feels. i cant control whether people understand the word "speculation".
and i also cant control "the eye of the beholder" mentality taking place here. like art, someone can say this is good, while others can say this is a flaming turd of a thread. both, are opinions, which this is not a place for.

and i am not a theologian, historian, or any other authority on any of these things, so instead of telling me i'm wrong, participate in the actual point of this thread please. if some of you are one of those things, great! but that isnt what this thread is about.

and that is all i will say. i'm not going to sit here all day and make preemptive disclaimers because people think that maybe i will offend someone. i would change the poll if i could, but i cant. lesson learned there. so far, noone has REALLY become offended.
so far, half this thread is speculation only.

that is why i will no longer reply to it, nor read it, nor acknowledge it from this point on, unless its a legitimate complaint.

thank you all for participating and voting!

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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2011, 06:40:28 pm »
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As Bane said, his objections were more about accuracy than possible offence.

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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2011, 06:47:38 pm »
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You realize agnostics aren't even remotely the same thing as atheists?   :rolleyes:

Anyways I'm agnostic, I acknowledge the possibility of a dietific entity somewhere out there in the depths that science cannot explain.

In case of attack by religious zealots however I shield myself as a follower of Cthulu. 
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2011, 07:51:52 pm »
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I am officially without confession. In this country, if you don't get active, you have to pay taxes for the church. I don't have to, anymore.
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2011, 08:15:16 pm »
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2011, 08:26:18 pm »
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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

BLASPHEMER!!

No, in seriousness, I looked at history, and I chose Atheism because:

Never, not even ONCE has someone stood up and yelled "I DECLARE WAR IN THE NAME OF NO GOD!"

So since it has ended the least lives and caused the least heartache, bloodshed, and finacial ruin, and does not benefit anyone by letting them prey on my personal insecurity, I choose to worship at the Altar Of Science, since I have to take "facts" like that the world is round or the moon causes the tide on faith, being unable to prove them myself.
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2011, 08:31:22 pm »
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Never, not even ONCE has someone stood up and yelled "I DECLARE WAR IN THE NAME OF NO GOD!"
Urss? Revolutionary France? North Vietnam?

I'm agnostic, and as gorath it's quite different from being atheist. Anyway, putting jews and muslims togheter? Really??  :shock:
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2011, 08:43:36 pm »
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Never, not even ONCE has someone stood up and yelled "I DECLARE WAR IN THE NAME OF NO GOD!"

False

In Soviet Russia, in particular, humanism and secular belief was one of the defining characteristics of the peoples revolution.  The abolition of religion as a state mandate helped to further this goal.  It only led to repression, and the black market smuggling of religious materials as well as secret undergroud churches.  They also imprisoned people for outward religious beliefs, and publicly persecuted them all in the name of "no God"

read your world history again.  this was only one example.  there are many.
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2011, 08:49:22 pm »
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False

In Soviet Russia, in particular, humanism and secular belief was one of the defining characteristics of the peoples revolution.  The abolition of religion as a state mandate helped to further this goal.  It only led to repression, and the black market smuggling of religious materials as well as secret undergroud churches.  They also imprisoned people for outward religious beliefs, and publicly persecuted them all in the name of "no God"

read your world history again.  this was only one example.  there are many.

NOOOOOOO, a STATE repressed its individuals, just as many others have done/still do in the name of their god, or the name of their cause (Socialism etc)

Theres a BIG difference between repressing individuals and declaring war....just my opinion.
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2011, 08:52:08 pm »
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When a state is defined BY ITS PEOPLE, and one of its very founding tenets was humanism and the repression of religion, that is a people standing up and declaring war in the name of "no god".  The very people who pushed for revolution followed this to its extreem.  This is exactly what you have said has never happened.  and a revolution IS war on the current system.
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2011, 09:02:48 pm »
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this thread proves exactly why we didn't want to discuss religion in these forums.
there's only one super god (armagan) and chadz is his messenger...  8-)
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2011, 09:11:46 pm »
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When a state is defined BY ITS PEOPLE, and one of its very founding tenets was humanism and the repression of religion, that is a people standing up and declaring war in the name of "no god".  The very people who pushed for revolution followed this to its extreem.  This is exactly what you have said has never happened.  and a revolution IS war on the current system.

No mate, the people who pushed for revolution in Russia where all killed or sent to Syberia within 6 months of the Tsar being removed from power. The Soviet Republic was a brutal regime to live under exactly BECAUSE those who wanted to improve things were removed, sometimes as simply as a icepick to the head, as in the end of Trotsky. The USSR was a ugly, horrible parody of socialism and its ideals. Blindly yelling "FOR STALIN" and killing people, thats the same as yelling "For God!".

My point stands, be your god a man, or a deity; blindly following someone is an act of faith. So when a person is subjugated to the will of another, because "God" said so, or because "Stalin" said so, its the same, its a war based on faith, NOT based on improving the standing of those being subjugated, which is the ONLY truly altruistic case for war.

The allies in WW2 is the closest anyone has ever come to fighting a war for good reasons in someone elses country. The majority of soldiers IN that war fought because what einstein was doing to europe was WRONG, and they all saw it, and they stood up and said "NO more", and they went to Berlin to shoot him. So, short of THAT case, there is NO case where someone can invade another with good cause. So, they have bad causes, and while thruout history the VAST majority of wars, EVEN the crusades, where realistically ONLY for financiall betterment of those organising them, unfortunatly for religions, they tend to be used as the excuse.

Anyway, I have gone off on a tangent: Faith in a man, or a god, is used as an excuse for many wars, but never has someone invaded another country to try propulgate Atheism.
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2011, 09:14:51 pm »
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No mate, the people who pushed for revolution in Russia where all killed or sent to Syberia within 6 months of the Tsar being removed from power. The Soviet Republic was a brutal regime to live under exactly BECAUSE those who wanted to improve things were removed, sometimes as simply as a icepick to the head, as in the end of Trotsky. The USSR was a ugly, horrible parody of socialism and its ideals. Blindly yelling "FOR STALIN" and killing people, thats the same as yelling "For God!".

My point stands, be your god a man, or a deity; blindly following someone is an act of faith. So when a person is subjugated to the will of another, because "God" said so, or because "Stalin" said so, its the same, its a war based on faith, NOT based on improving the standing of those being subjugated, which is the ONLY truly altruistic case for war.

The allies in WW2 is the closest anyone has ever come to fighting a war for good reasons in someone elses country. The majority of soldiers IN that war fought because what einstein was doing to europe was WRONG, and they all saw it, and they stood up and said "NO more", and they went to Berlin to shoot him. So, short of THAT case, there is NO case where someone can invade another with good cause. So, they have bad causes, and while thruout history the VAST majority of wars, EVEN the crusades, where realistically ONLY for financiall betterment of those organising them, unfortunatly for religions, they tend to be used as the excuse.

Anyway, I have gone off on a tangent: Faith in a man, or a god, is used as an excuse for many wars, but never has someone invaded another country to try propulgate Atheism.
You forgot that the urss also formally declared war on a shitloads of countries, in the name of an atheist ideology.
So your argument that without religion there is no war is simply not true. Also north vietnam, a fiercely atheist country invaded south vietnam, and revolutionary france invaded italy egypt etc, and there are many other examples so yeah aggressive wars can be declared by atheist countries too.
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Re: What Religion are you?
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2011, 10:23:21 pm »
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I came to the realzation after reading through most of the posts over the last couple of days that it is pointless to argue with someone who has the capacity for such deep self deception.  case closed.
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