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agree, 2h cav can't possibly be fun and all players should try something else.
disagree, 2h cav could possibly be fun and all players should try it.
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2h cav
« on: December 02, 2011, 01:41:05 am »
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Is itz true that 2h cav

"cant possibly be a fun playstyle.."

and that i should

"give it up already"
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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 01:56:56 am »
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thomek knows best!
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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 02:00:10 am »
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I like 2hcav style, but


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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 02:00:34 am »
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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 02:01:46 am »
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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 02:02:47 am »
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Morningstar + speedbonus = 1hit storry
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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 02:09:46 am »
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Unless you ride a yoshi you won't have fun.

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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 01:52:05 pm »
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As i know you have fun with that class combination, why even bother asking others. Doesn't matter if effective or not aslong you like it.
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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2011, 04:25:01 pm »
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there is no weapon which uses 2h wpf on a horse...

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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2011, 05:13:39 pm »
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there is no weapon which uses 2h wpf on a horse...

That's not true mate, a two handed weapon that you can use on a horse uses the 2h WPF aslong as you aren't also holding a shield, I used to play one myself, it was also alot of fun. Unless of course they have changed it since then.

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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2011, 08:07:53 pm »
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there is no weapon which uses 2h wpf on a horse...

You are clearly an expert on this.

I used to play one myself, it was also alot of fun.
They haven't changed anything no, however Ninja thomek would disagree with your assessment of its enjoyability

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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2011, 08:21:24 pm »
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Although morningstar is somewhat effective, not having a thrust attack puts you at a big disadvantage against other cav and any infantry with a long thrust attack (1h/2h swords)

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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2011, 10:42:34 pm »
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The speed and damage debuff you get for using it on horseback makes it much less powerful than other cavalry classes. Forget about being a class, it's a trinket and nothing more.
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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 03:17:57 pm »
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The speed and damage debuff you get for using it on horseback makes it much less powerful than other cavalry classes. Forget about being a class, it's a trinket and nothing more.

Compared to 1h cavalry the additional reach you get using these 2h weapons really does set you at an advantage, numerous times while using longswords / hbs in battle and on the duel server i have been able to outreach 1h cav with the thrust - in that sense it has certain advantages over 1h cav.

In relation to lancer cav the reduction received is the same debuff you get using a lance with a shield from horseback as well. In comparison its really not that bad considering the higher pierce damage of the morning star compared to other weapons usable from horseback (polearm and 1h).

Would you say the damage and speed was justifiable when it received crush through from horseback or was that op?  Is the damage and speed from horseback now ok or is it too 'nerfed' to be viable?

Also does the greater abilities of 2h on foot make up for the supposed inefficiency of 2h on horseback? Does this ultimately make it a more versatile class form than a generic 2h or 1h cavalry, to which you should compare?


Although morningstar is somewhat effective, not having a thrust attack puts you at a big disadvantage against other cav and any infantry with a long thrust attack (1h/2h swords)

Indeed the lack of thrust on he morning star makes attacking aware players at speed a suicide, and trying fight (good) lancer cav a nightmare. Remember however that there are several 2h weapons that do have thrusts on horseback and they are more than effective. Against 1h cavalry I've rarely felt i was at a huge disadvantage while using the morning star.
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Re: 2h cav
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 11:56:26 pm »
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Compared to 1h cavalry the additional reach you get using these 2h weapons really does set you at an advantage, numerous times while using longswords / hbs in battle and on the duel server i have been able to outreach 1h cav with the thrust - in that sense it has certain advantages over 1h cav.

In relation to lancer cav the reduction received is the same debuff you get using a lance with a shield from horseback as well. In comparison its really not that bad considering the higher pierce damage of the morning star compared to other weapons usable from horseback (polearm and 1h).

Would you say the damage and speed was justifiable when it received crush through from horseback or was that op?  Is the damage and speed from horseback now ok or is it too 'nerfed' to be viable?

Also does the greater abilities of 2h on foot make up for the supposed inefficiency of 2h on horseback? Does this ultimately make it a more versatile class form than a generic 2h or 1h cavalry, to which you should compare?
Most viable 2handed cav weapons don't have a thrust, plus it would be useless to do so, you aren't playing the class to poke like a lancer. Nor would it be as powerful.

Crush trough on horseback was useless, overheading is the last thing you'd do.

I myself have played all possible cavalry classes multiple times, with a crazy 2h/xbow/cav build right now. And I gotta tell ya, a twohanded player is better off leaving cavarly alone atm than a onehanded player. The main problems being the much lower damage, speed and much higher vulnerability to archers on horseback.
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