Yeah and that discussion was good enough for the devs, or Meow has gone rogue, to promise the removal of ladders. Again, this is not to discuss the issue, just to remind the devs and get it to the top of their cRPG fixing priority list.
If the next patch comes and the ladders are still there, and they will be like, oh yeah we forgot, I will kill myself.
Melee only server is rarely populated, my clan doesn't play there and it is very different. I'm completely fine with ranged if they aren't on the roof.