HOMOPHOBIA

[ThePoopy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4VZcQU55CM

[SixThumbs]

This thread is so gay.

[Cosmos_Shielder]

Maybe you do need to change , and stop thinking people are mocking you each time they say my old friend. You know what , most of people who are'nt native english speaker don't know that bundle of sticks is the colloquial word for gay. I'm french , and i do know some french playing crpg insulting archer and cav of beeing my old friend , but none of them knows that it has anything to do with gay.

Second thing , you really want to be trolled ??!
If you like having sex with granny , or people to shit on your face , or having sex with a sadist , or whatever your sexual habits it's NONE OUR BUSINESS. If you don't want to be trolled about you gayness , don't bother us telling you're gay. We are neither your friend neither your mom!

[Frankysan]

Maybe you do need to change , and stop thinking people are mocking you each time they say my old friend. You know what , most of people who are'nt native english speaker don't know that bundle of sticks is the colloquial word for gay. I'm french , and i do know some french playing crpg insulting archer and cav of beeing my old friend , but none of them knows that it has anything to do with gay.

Second thing , you really want to be trolled ??!
If you like having sex with granny , or people to shit on your face , or having sex with a sadist , or whatever your sexual habits it's NONE OUR BUSINESS. If you don't want to be trolled about you gayness , don't bother us telling your gay. We are neither your friend neither your mom!

I'm a good example o.O
had no idea it was offensive, saw that the first time in gaming and my brain registered that like a random word to throw at ppl. In crpg i actually call all the ranged bundle of stickss, regardless their sexual preferences.
btw sry if i hurt someone was not intentional at all, be sure if i want to insult you i have plenty of non racist terms!

[Diomedes]

The important question here is: What is acceptable content for in-game chat?

I'm fine with acceptability being limited so that it excludes the more repulsive forms of discrimination (sexism, racism, discrimination based on sexual preference, etc.).  If anybody finds themselves upset by instances of that language in-game please contact me via admin chat (i key chat).

I don't see what else there is to discuss here.  If folks want to talk about the politics of sexual preference or philosophical analyses of hate speech take it to a new thread in a different part of the forum.

[Smoothrich]

not allowing "my old friend"  on the server turns it into a Christian Gaming Server, which is what Donkleaps tried to do on the community servers and he pretty much ruined them.

Big generalized rules don't work for this kind of stuff, if a player is being personally harassed by another then it is very appropriate to speak to an admin and pursue action.  However, general use of "wow that's gay"  and "ur a my old friend lol"  is not something that all gay people should be personally hurt by.  I know it sounds kind of screwed up to say, but the context of this stuff is really important and it is so pervasively accepted in typical gamer culture/youth in general its best to learn now how to differentiate and recognize what real hate speech and bigotry is as compared to meaningless insults hurled into the black hole of the server chat.

[Tomas_of_Miles]

not allowing "my old friend"  on the server turns it into a Christian Gaming Server, which is what Donkleaps tried to do on the community servers and he pretty much ruined them.

Big generalized rules don't work for this kind of stuff, if a player is being personally harassed by another then it is very appropriate to speak to an admin and pursue action.  However, general use of "wow that's gay"  and "ur a my old friend lol"  is not something that all gay people should be personally hurt by.  I know it sounds kind of screwed up to say, but the context of this stuff is really important and it is so pervasively accepted in typical gamer culture/youth in general its best to learn now how to differentiate and recognize what real hate speech and bigotry is as compared to meaningless insults hurled into the black hole of the server chat.

Personally I think there is a significant difference between saying "that's gay" and "you're a my old friend", since my old friend has taken a new meaning on, whereas gay means... gay. Obviously it's not anywhere near as dangerous as true hate speech, however I don't think it should go under the radar.

[bagge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB-Ct8J0LT0&feature=related

Win!

[The_Angle]

Its kinda everywhere in the real world as well. The people talking trash all the time are really suffering inside.
They get what they deserve eventually.

I think you're misinformed. People usually say these words out of habit, not to be hateful(For the most part) towards homosexuals.

[Radament]

....

it's the internetz.

[Gorath]

youth in general

Should never be considered as relevant for anything.

[a_bear_irl]

i'm gay

[MrShine]

Calling something 'gay' is like calling something 'retarded'.  It's not intended to be used strictly in the literal sense.

At the root I think there's a cultural problem with this, because it associates (perhaps intentionally from the origins) being homosexual to being an a-hole/d-bag whatever 'gay' means exactly.  I catch myself saying "that's gay" a lot and I can see how someone can be sensitive to it but it's not intended on my part to be be homophobic.

Funny thing is you hear people say "that's dumb" or "that's stupid" all the time and you don't hear complaints until someone says "that's retarded", however those phrases all mean essentially the same thing.  Same with "that's gay" - it's a cultural issue.  Good or bad it's not usually used in a homophobic manner in-game.

[Rumblood]

I'm a gay sympathizer. My advice to you is to study Etymology and the futility of trying to hold to an outdated meaning of a word.

Nowadays "bundle of sticks" usually refers to a friend of yours who just did something really lame or exploitative to you.

[dreadnok]

sigh you cant even have  fun anymore, always some twat upset bout something. the other guy was upset about turks being made fun of. heres the ultimate solution: go the crpg website, select your character go under settings and delete your character. then install hello kitty mmo. problem solved