The Useless Longbow

[RagnarLodbroke]

Damn, i was supposed to take a screenshot yesterday to show u something awesome, i was equipped with my longbow,145 wpf and 6 PD+ Bodkins.
my armor is a mail 3 k armor.

Then i saw a Xbow man, not quite sure what xbow he had, heavy armor aswell.

I belive we shot at the same time, i got a HS, he didnt die :S He missed, I reloaded at the same time as him and he was done reloading before i could release my arrow.... BOOM Headshot, i was dead, thinking " WHAT THE HELL, BS".

So my Question: Why the hell is the longbow even on the shopmenu?  Its really slow, inaccurate, and the Dmg is actually kinda bad lol!

How the hell is ppl able to survive a HS from a longbow. should be impossible!

[Tears of Destiny]

How far were you? Projectiles have pathetic hit power at long distances if shooting uphill (Top of the arc to be specific). I remember being tinked from a lucky shot from an archer I could barely see across the map and it took about 8% of my health. I have the best 5 pound armor and 0 pound gauntlets for protection and that is it.

It was a bodkin arrow sticking out of me too...

[RagnarLodbroke]

Not far at all, u know the siege map in the desert where u have got a siege tower.. The siege tower was pretty close the wall when i got yhe Hs,
 as i said i should have taken a screen!

[Rumblood]

How far were you? Projectiles have pathetic hit power at long distances if shooting uphill (Top of the arc to be specific). I remember being tinked from a lucky shot from an archer I could barely see across the map and it took about 8% of my health. I have the best 5 pound armor and 0 pound gauntlets for protection and that is it.

It was a bodkin arrow sticking out of me too...

I know where you are coming from, but man this is exactly the point! Longbow's are meant to be used at Long Range! So you can see how silly it is when someone says "My longbow's damage is crap!", and the response is "You must be using it at long range". 

[Grey]

So, crazy idead, BUT:

NERF Longbow firing speed a little more.

BUFF The accuracy and shot (arrow in flight) speed a bit

NERF the damage a small amount.

GIVE BACK pierce damage on longbow

NERF the damage reduction over range. (so dmg at range can be achieved)

RETURN longbow to battlefield, I think with above measures, longbow has a place, as a hard hitting, slow firing, heavy support character, leaving its targets either dead or with one foot in the grave, ready for teammate to finnish them.

But as it is now, longbow is just something to do when your bored....

[Dravic]

I did changes you listed above, Grey, and it looks something like that:

Current Longbow:

weight 1.75
requirement 6
spd rtng 48
shoot speed 54
thrust damage 30 cut
accuracy 96
Can't use on horseback
Gen1= 48spd 55shspd 31cut 96acc
Gen2= 49spd 56shspd 32cut 97acc
Gen3= 50spd 57shspd 33cut 98acc

"New" Longbow:

weight 4.75
requirement 6
spd rtng 44
shoot speed 57
thrust damage 28 pierce
accuracy 97
Can't use on horseback
Gen1= 44spd 58shspd 29pierce 97acc
Gen2= 45spd 59shspd 30pierce 98acc
Gen3= 46spd 60shspd 31pierce 99acc


Weight prevents from running with this bow.
Also AFAIK its impossible to turn off damage reduce at long ranges only with 1 bow, even more: im not sure it is possible to turn off damage reduce  even to all ranged.
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Could be better vs tincans, and with say 8 PD would hurt. Especially headshot.

[3ABP]

weight 4.75

Bad (very very bad idea).
For now here is not (looks so) minimum 5 kg free weight what doesn't decrease effective WPF for archers.
So in case of 4,75kg weight - you must wear nothing more except 1 pack of arrows.
Because even 2nd pack of arrow will decrease your effective WPF more and more.

Why at all  (general\generally) you want to change bows weight? What the point?
Just to find another way how to decrease Longbow quantity? It's (those ways) fully enough now.

P.s.

Weight prevents from running with this bow.

AFAIK weapon weight doesn't affect character running speed at all (only other weapon modifier - but I will not tell you - which one )

[Mouse]

NERF the damage reduction over range. (so dmg at range can be achieved)

This might be something hard coded into the game engine, unfortunately.

[Gisbert_of_Thuringia]

If a real longbow had as much speed as in c-rpg, the English wouldn't have won battles like aszincourt....

That's the only thing i say about that :/


Most of the posts here are ridiculous..."make the longbow slower, but give it more accuracy and dmg" o.O
Are you kinda stupid?? The problem with the longbow is its speed!

[Dravic]

But if you speed Longbow up, it will be second warbow. If you make dmg higher, it will be good alternative to it.

[Paul]

Longbow gets piercing damage next patch. 23p I think.

[Dravic]

23? WHAT? Give it at least 25 (as much as a dagger has), AT LEAST!

But anyway, good step.

[Rumblood]

Longbow gets piercing damage next patch. 23p I think.

Might be enough. 25 would I think.

[Wallace]

I used the longbow on my 13 PD archer... could 2 shot tin cans

nuffsed

[Tears of Destiny]

I used the longbow on my 13 PD archer... could 2 shot tin cans

nuffsed

Why 13? The damage bonus does not effect anything past 4 higher then your bow requirement.