Blatant rage about 2h facehugging uber power

[Xant]

Oh god, forget I mentioned it. I have a headache from trying to figure out your reasoning. It's either too elaborate for me to understand, or it's simply a shameless stunt of a hiltslasher, trying to protect his best source of kills.

Yes, hiltslash accounts for 90% of my 1h kills. I think you are suffering from a severe case of "l2p". Anyone dares to question you, it's them clearly wanting to protect their cheaty way of getting kills!!1

It's exactly as SaulCanner says. Kicks are FAR more dangerous than those mythical hiltslashes. Main reason why I use Arabian Cav Sword, too.

[Mala]

Unless I'm mistaken, Xant is a 1h.

There is nothing broken about castor swings. They are not difficult to counter (even with 1 wpf) if you are paying attention. They serve to break up the dull 'block, attack, block, attack' rhythm of fights.

When I play 1h, I'm far more afraid of opponents who can consistently land kicks than I am of opponents who can castor.

Because no one tells it, how do i counter this and for what i have to looking for?

[Vodner]

Because no one tells it, how do i counter this and for what i have to looking for?

It usually goes like this:

1) Enemy facehugs you.
2) Enemy starts a sideswing, and strafes in the same direction as the swing.
3) After getting blocked, the enemy immediately starts a swing in the opposite direction, and switches strafe directions.

You can tell somebody is probably going to castor from steps 1 and 2.

As a 1h, you can counter it by strafing in the same direction of the second swing (away from the weapon), and either left swinging or overheading. If you left swing, start the swing as close as you can to his head without risking a glance.

Alternatively, if you're good at kicking (I am not), you can kick him.

As a side note, this actually creates a pretty interesting mind game. The counter to the castor is pretty easy to chamber (being an immediate swing), so the castor footwork can be imitated to trick your opponent into an easy chamber. Cyranule is the only person I've ever really seen do this.

[Xant]

As a side note, this actually creates a pretty interesting mind game. The counter to the castor is pretty easy to chamber (being an immediate swing), so the castor footwork can be imitated to trick your opponent into an easy chamber. Cyranule is the only person I've ever really seen do this.

The interesting part about the chamber in that position is that sometimes it's so fast it's practically unblockable - it's a hiltslash too, if you move correctly, and hits almost instantly.

[awesomeasaurus]

I agree with the first post. by Gorath. on November 7th.

How the fuck do the 2hers facehug me and hit me but I glance at close range?

[Vibe]

I believe I've done chamber hiltslashes before, pretty much unblockable

[Paul]

STR_Decky_Smile (or maybe I confuse him with some other STRange meat) tries to chamber follow-ups (hiltslash in child speak). He's usually pretty fucked when holding the second swing for a few milliseconds.

[B3RS3RK]

Sry that iam such a noob, but wth is hiltslashing?

[Vibe]

Sry that iam such a noob, but wth is hiltslashing?

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It usually goes like this:

1) Enemy facehugs you.
2) Enemy starts a sideswing, and strafes in the same direction as the swing.
3) After getting blocked, the enemy immediately starts a swing in the opposite direction, and switches strafe directions.

You can tell somebody is probably going to castor from steps 1 and 2.

As a 1h, you can counter it by strafing in the same direction of the second swing (away from the weapon), and either left swinging or overheading. If you left swing, start the swing as close as you can to his head without risking a glance.

Alternatively, if you're good at kicking (I am not), you can kick him.

As a side note, this actually creates a pretty interesting mind game. The counter to the castor is pretty easy to chamber (being an immediate swing), so the castor footwork can be imitated to trick your opponent into an easy chamber. Cyranule is the only person I've ever really seen do this.

[B3RS3RK]

ähh So Hiltslashing is what you described in 1-3?or the thing after that?

Iam confused.Either this was never used against me or I didnt notice it at all.

[Vibe]

ähh So Hiltslashing is what you described in 1-3?or the thing after that?

Iam confused.Either this was never used against me or I didnt notice it at all.

Hiltslashing is what is described in 1-3. The point of hiltslash is that it gives you a second attack (which hits early in the animation). For this to work you practically have to have your hands/hilt inside your oponents body - thus "hiltslashing" or americanized "castor swing".

[The_Bloody_Nine]

ähh

I just try keep to distance/use good footwork, works for me with high ath.

[B3RS3RK]

Okay lol I never encountered that yet.Might be my 7 Athletics with light armor keeping me away from beeing facehugged.

[Xant]

STR_Decky_Smile (or maybe I confuse him with some other STRange meat) tries to chamber follow-ups (hiltslash in child speak). He's usually pretty fucked when holding the second swing for a few milliseconds.

Right. It's risky because you don't really have room for error. Perfectly balanced and fine.

[Phyrex]

STR_Decky_Smile (or maybe I confuse him with some other STRange meat) tries to chamber follow-ups (hiltslash in child speak). He's usually pretty fucked when holding the second swing for a few milliseconds.

Sorry lol. When Szymzack(WV/the_Grey) started using it on Ndition duel server we needed a name. Since he was facehugging and strafing while doing those it looked like he was attacking with the hilt of his Greatsword, hence I coined it "hiltslash".