Please review 1h shield to pol and 2h counterparts.

[Zisa]

Huey moves way too fast.

[Spa_geh_tea]

Im sorry but only those who are dedicated 1h/shield input is valid. Course other classes dont want to improve the "most balanced" class. When something is "balanced" its underpowered when it comes to the gaming world.

[Xant]

1h+shield is fine. Only annoying thing are lordly armors (yes, I realize I'm saying this quite a lot BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S TRUE DAWG) because you need ten thousand seven hundred and thirty one hits to kill someone wearing one (and lordly gauntlets).

[Tears of Destiny]

1h+shield is fine. Only annoying thing are lordly armors (yes, I realize I'm saying this quite a lot BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S TRUE DAWG) because you need ten thousand seven hundred and thirty one hits to kill someone wearing one (and lordly gauntlets).

Nerf torso armour from 7 to 4 and Gauntlets from 7 to 3 or 4

[Dezilagel]

Nerf torso armour from 7 to 4 and Gauntlets from 7 to 3 or 4

And then nerf ranged looms and we'll all be happy.

Also, I find 1h (especially maces and picks) to be really useful during this era of lordly armors since 1h headhit often and get by people's blocks more easily.

[rustyspoon]

Overall I find 1 handers to be balanced with 2 handers and poles.

However, I think that shields are more of a liability unless you are an agi build. They slow you down too much and can be fired around and the coverage (on non-round shields) is pretty small. Manual blocks are also much faster than most shields. Still, perfect blocking with some caveats makes up for those faults.

Honestly my only real problem with melee mechanics is that hilt slashing with 2 handers is still pretty easy to do.

[Osiris]

Im playing a shielder atm 21-15 with 7ps and 7if. I use a MW long arming sword and i must say i easily hold my own against most 2h and poles. (i play agressive and sometimes it fails) Polearms are a pain in the arse 1 on 1 because they break shields and a hit nearly ALWAYS staggers me massivly. A lot of 2h players seem to wear light head armour or see a shielder and think easy kill! Light head armour = quick death and charge = stab in the face. Now skilled 2h are more difficult because they can block well and it usually takes a long time to fight them.

If your having trouble with spammy 2h as a shielder just block and wait for help or remember that 99% of the time they are going to try to hiltslash so hold block for the second hit before attacking. If they backpeddle just leave them alone.


Shielders dont need any buff. Shield bash instead of kick would be epic though <3

[Diomedes]

I'm a dedicated shielder and I don't think shielders are imbalanced when it comes to speed.  There are definitely things which need tweaking (stabs bouncing too much, for example) but speed isn't one of them.  As a shielder, with only 5 athletics, I'm often the fastest running player on my team.  Using a medium shield and footwork, I find I can also land some of the fastest blows in a fight.  Against bowmen I orient myself to receive or avoid every incoming shot, and rarely get hit when an archer is in my line of sight.  Against 2h and Polearms I use opponent-specific tactics and rarely find myself outgunned (though I'm often outmatched - but that's entirely different).

TL;DR: Shielders are fine and Fallen hax

[DrKronic]

After coming off two one hand builds with a scimitar and buckler I see no problem, in fact compared to manual blocking it was very much ezmode

[Laufknoten]

Im sorry but only those who are dedicated 1h/shield input is valid. Course other classes dont want to improve the "most balanced" class. When something is "balanced" its underpowered when it comes to the gaming world.

I'm a shielder (atleast my main is one) and I think the class is indeed balanced. I play with a stabby sword (side sword) and I could rage all day because of the rediculous glances I get sometimes, but I don't, because I still get decent scores at the top of the scoreboard and I can deal good damage.   

Also str-build + MW Elite Spamitard is perhaps the easiest thing in crpg.

[Xant]

Laufknoten sucks, don't listen to him. Str build as a shielder is pure suicide, you need agi for your shield.

[Laufknoten]

Laufknoten sucks, don't listen to him. Str build as a shielder is pure suicide, you need agi for your shield.

You're right, Xant. xD Btw I never play with less than 6 ath or 5 shield skill.

[Diomedes]

Str build as a shielder is pure suicide

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[Xant]

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[Diomedes]

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You're wrong brah