Cavalry nullified in Strat 3.0 - gold nerf went too extreme

[Keshian]

One thing I dont get was the massive gold nerf and increased gold cost for items.  In most of strat 2.0 we were fighting with low-mid tier armor, rounceys for our cavalry, lower end 1hers and 2hers with maybe a few mid-tier weapons in short supply.  Why the massive nerf???? 

Now we will permanently and forever not have more than 2-4 rounceys or sumpters in battles involving 500-1000 troops.  Its gone a little too extreme and has completely nullified an entire class for strategus.  Im an archer and dislike cavalry, but this is fricken ridiculous and unbalanced.

[Plaksteris]

Learn to get money! MOAR TEAMWORK FOR CLANS!

[Keshian]

You get money, but the amount available to even get basic armor nullifies available gold for more than 2 horses at best even with crafting skill (and msot people dont have crafting skill in the roucneys and sumpters - more armored horses, coursers and arabians).  Even going naked you only can get 5-6 more horses for a 500 man army that way, which disappear qucikly with unarmored riders.

[serr]

I think, with new upkeep system you will not be able to have huge armies, so after you capture all villages on your claims, you will accumulate money and big wars between factions will be with medium equipment and horses.

[Keshian]

The thing is acquiring troops is pretty easy and up to 50 per person no upkeep and redcued upkeep in villages you own.  What we will likely continue to see is hordes of poorly armed and armored peasants for all of strategus and never a decent cavalry force.  Throwing 6 500 man armies one after the other more effective than 1 500 mana rmy with better gear.

[Turboflex]

I think, with new upkeep system you will not be able to have huge armies, so after you capture all villages on your claims, you will accumulate money and big wars between factions will be with medium equipment and horses.

Kind of agree here. Right now the game is in a phase where people are claiming fiefs and the best way to do that seems to be to with massing up enough low quality gear/soldiers to win by attrition even if the random defenders do a really solid job.

Also it didn't help that smithing skill wasn't working properly for horses so nobody has any significant levels to craft at discount.

[Ozin]

Bring back the lance of compensation for strategus battles only! Seriously, it would make the game a lot more interesting.

[Sir_Ironlake]

ehhh guys
its like the first days of strategus, what do you expect, knight armies?

[Keshian]

ehhh guys
its like the first days of strategus, what do you expect, knight armies?

We are about a month in you realize right???? and the planned wipe and switchover to new maps and changed features is 6-8 months in (at least cahdz posted that)??

[SPQR]

ehhh guys
its like the first days of strategus, what do you expect, knight armies?

By this time last strategus every village was taken, most clans had a couple thousands troops, and several wars had popped off.

So far this strategus there have been a couple peasant-on-peasant village fights and thats it.

[Darkkarma]

By this time last strategus every village was taken, most clans had a couple thousands troops, and several wars had popped off.

So far this strategus there have been a couple peasant-on-peasant village fights and thats it.

I think that given how much has changed from last strat in the way money is made, and how central having money is now, it's to be expected. I actually like the new trade concept and how it really does force diplomacy with neighboring factions in many ways. I think that once everything really gets going, this strat will be really interesting and fun.

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See you guys in a  few months.

[Konrax]

It just came out and people are freaking out.

I'm sure it will work out fine.

[Rikthor]

It's been out for close to a month, that's not just came out.

[Turboflex]

Well guys let's not forget this is still a beta test.

This new economic system is still rudimentry and full of placeholders but it is the backbone of more complexity to come so from chadz' and the other devs' perspectives it makes sense for them to want to have it moving slowly and they seem to be purposefully throwing up brakes to keep it slow (jacking up NPC town defence #s and gear prices).

They can monitor resource progress, balance easily, and quash bugs quickly. If this was accelerated and all kinds of shit started coming up requiring a wipe or more rollbacks then people unhappy with this pacing would be even more unhappy.

[Cosmos_Shielder]

Is it possible to craft a horse?