Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.

[Frankysan]

haha Dezi 90% of the polearmers RELY on the polestagger, especially Glaive or LHB users.

very very false

[v/onMega]

46 or more cut/over 30 pierce srsly needs stagger on top.
Not.

245 or more range srsly needs stagger on top.
Not.

Not saying polearmers rely on stagger in a 1on1. You need certain builds and weapons to do so. Few have em.

What kills the fun is the fact that melee combat against a long spear/awlpiker + X means = One mistake will make you fall in 95% of the cases.

Its not the polearmer getting the second / third hit, but the guy(s) with him.

So extreme output and perfect teamplay / helping abilities really justify stagger?

I say no, a careful selection of polearms should keep it. Thats it.

Saying something different is pure lobbyism (yes, i played german poleaxe/long awlpiker last gen, it was easy).

[Gurnisson]

(click to show/hide)

46 or more cut/over 30 pierce srsly needs stagger on top.
Not.

245 or more range srsly needs stagger on top.
Not.

Not saying polearmers rely on stagger in a 1on1. You need certain builds and weapons to do so. Few have em.

What kills the fun is the fact that melee combat against a long spear/awlpiker + X means = One mistake will make you fall in 95% of the cases.

Its not the polearmer getting the second / third hit, but the guy(s) with him.

So extreme output and perfect teamplay / helping abilities really justify stagger?

I say no, a careful selection of polearms should keep it. Thats it.

Saying something different is pure lobbyism (yes, i played german poleaxe/long awlpiker last gen, it was easy).

I'm in complete disagreement with you. Pike and Long Spear can keep it for all that I care, that's part of their role. Getting 2 hits in for one enemy mistake with poleaxes, long axes, glaive, bardiches etc. is just a joke. Maybe the stagger duration could be shortened a bit. If not, they should just get rid off it and buff polearms stat-wise.

[Dezilagel]

I'm in complete disagreement with you. Pike and Long Spear can keep it for all that I care, that's part of their role. Getting 2 hits in for one enemy mistake with poleaxes, long axes, glaive, bardiches etc. is just a joke. Maybe the stagger duration could be shortened a bit. If not, they should just get rid off it and buff polearms stat-wise.

If ANY weapon should keep it then the stagger mechanic should be changed so that it's not random like it is now imo. Urist wrote something about changing it so that it activates if the opponent has an attack chambered or something a while ago, but really I personally think the whole mechanic is quite lame. Losing control of your character sucks balls in most games, even more so in an environment such as Warband's where you don't have a substantial HP bar, and one random knockdown/stagger/horsebump (seriously, fix the low-speed bumps) is often fatal to your character.

[Gurnisson]

seriously, fix the low-speed bumps

[Leshma]

Polearms =  Easy mode

Especially long ones like Poleaxes and Long Bardiche.

Hit once -> Sidestep -> Hit second time -> Keep it up until enemy is dead

If you don't polestagger on the first hit, keep blocking/attacking.

Next time training grounds are mine

[Christo]

Polearms =  Easy mode

2h über pike lolswords = Easy mode

1h scimitar/pick spamming = Easy mode

Don't try to overglorify your playstyle like it's the most skill demanding one in the game. It isn't.

[Leshma]

2h über pike lolswords = Easy mode

1h scimitar/pick spamming = Easy mode

Don't try to overglorify your playstyle like it's the most skill demanding one in the game. It isn't.

2h - downblock until you hear it connected with your block
1h left spam - hold your block!

Both are annoying, I do agree. Greatswords are OP, that's for sure. But polestagger isn't silly broken, it's awesome

[HarunYahya]

Remove everything and add lightsabers already !

[BlackMilk]

2h über pike lolswords = Easy mode

1h scimitar/pick spamming = Easy mode

Don't try to overglorify your playstyle like it's the most skill demanding one in the game. It isn't.

how in the world is 1h easymode?
you get kicked all the time, the range sucks, damage is crap, your shield breaks all the time due to polearms, crushthrough weapons and cav kill you all the time etc

[Christo]

how in the world is 1h easymode?
you get kicked all the time, the range sucks, damage is crap, your shield breaks all the time due to polearms, crushthrough weapons and cav kill you all the time etc

Reading comprehension 1/10

I said scimitar/pick spamming.

Not all 1h.

Tell me, how is the damage crap on the steel pick, how is the scimitar crap also.

[v/onMega]

Christo.

Name one guy except kinngrimm being able to spam you with his pick.

Srsly, he is the only one I know having the build to do it. Other then that its not like picks dominate.

Sorry.

EScimitar is one of the worst choices you can make as a 1h (there is 6-7 weapons being better)

One thing I recon though, if u still use ur elegant poleaxe (like you used too), you dont have a great weapon yourself...maybe thats why ur argumentation is that way?

2h is great, just like polearms are (without the stagger)

[Vibe]

Imo,

2h eez mode, but so is Pole.
1h is effective, but was fucking depressing to play due to amount of teamhits and tincans (seriously, I glanced 80% of the time on loomed cans with 7 PS and 130 wpf, what is this shit).


As for stagger, it should be reduced by about 50%, not removed. Just so you can't get free hits in, but is still effective for battle.

[BlackMilk]

Reading comprehension 1/10

I said scimitar/pick spamming.

Not all 1h.

Tell me, how is the damage crap on the steel pick, how is the scimitar crap also.

scimitar is a 1h I guess? to spam a scimitar you have to facehug->easy kicks for the opponent.
33 cut damage is...crap, range is...decent. sometimes you can outrange a bec user if he fails hard, but mostly you have to block first.
your shield breaks all the time due to all top tier polearms being axes, crushthrough weapons and cav kill you. 0 chance to kill a lancer and crushthrough weapons..well you better run when you spot one
I don't see how that's easymode really.

[Bobthehero]

I agree vs cav due to lack of stab, but its speed makes it hellish to fight agaisn't as a mauler.