Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.

[Gurnisson]

first you say its only mediocre 2handers that complain about polestagger, then when called bs on (witch i didnt even bother with ) you turn it arround and say well you know hes not good with  polearm you know.... how can that be... : i can tell you i lose 1/20 duels with Tor, but when he goes 2hander hes not that impressive. you son seem like your grasping arround not having anybasis to stand on.

Yes, Tor is a bad two-hander, that's why he only got second place in the dueling tournament as one.

[rufio]

ah fuck you gurni, tor is better with polearm then with 2hander, i dont know witch duel tournament this was, but ye il say in groupplay hes not as good then. just talking from my experience playing wiht him

[rufio]

and i only hated on you for hating on me 

* i lose from tor evenfaster because of polestagger thow :3

[Teeth]

So if polearm is better than 2h in every way possible, how is it possible that one of the best 2h players sucks hard with polearms?

Simple, cause Phyrex is a good 2h because he has been a 2h for thousands of hours and was a really good lolstabber, he used/abused all the 2h tricks there are. When you change class there are a whole bunch of new tricks, but it takes time before you learn these. A handful of hours of polearm experience does not compare to thousands of hours of 2h.

Just like Tor abuses everything there is to abuse about polearms. While blocking and attacking stays the same if you change class, pretty much everything else changes. You need to adjust chamber timing, range control and need to learn a whole new batch of tricks and moves and forget the old ones.

That being said. I changed from 2h to polearm and did a lot better. For me polearm is the easiest class and if I look at the stats I can see why.

Lets assume 1 vs 1 duel for this:

When I fight Tor (polearm Tor), I loose almost always.
When I fight Phyrex (2h Phyrex), I loose almost always.

When I fight Phyrex (polearm Phyrex) I win almost always.

Conclusion: Polearm can´t be OP in any way, because that would mean I would have to beat 2h Phyrex also.

I'm just hoping you're not a scientist.

[rufio]

thank you for taking the time teeth, i couldnt be arsed xD

[rufio]

well by excluding it in an example where it is clearly included in practice, is not good argumentation ah well enough for me for today, good to see we went back to civil conversation :3

[Vibe]

blah blah blah in the end it was your fault to get staggered in the first place.

[rufio]

ye it was your fault so you deserve to get a second hit , and it was his reward for getting a hit on you , deal with it it is the will of the gods.

[Son Of Odin]

good to see we went back to civil conversation :3

Can you still come to our ts to give Vibe a little shouting?

[Jarlek]

All this delicious whine!

[Xant]

tl;dr Tor sucks and is a nab

[Slev23]

Polestagger is annoying, and I kind of wish they would remove, but... it would make a chunk of weapons useless. Any spear relies on the horizontal stagger to be truly effective. If you removed polestagger, red tassel and warspear would be useless, since battle fork and awlpike with be basically improved version.

[Vkvkvk]

Polestagger is annoying, and I kind of wish they would remove, but... it would make a chunk of weapons useless. Any spear relies on the horizontal stagger to be truly effective. If you removed polestagger, red tassel and warspear would be useless, since battle fork and awlpike with be basically improved version.

Keep it on spears as it was originally supposed to be, Polestagger was to help spears and the likes, it just so happens to really really help the higher end polearms that do already shitload of damage.

[Tzar]

Polestagger is annoying, and I kind of wish they would remove, but... it would make a chunk of weapons useless. Any spear relies on the horizontal stagger to be truly effective. If you removed polestagger, red tassel and warspear would be useless, since battle fork and awlpike with be basically improved version.

So they are low tier weapons why shouldn't the higher tier be better?

Polestagger was to help spears and the likes

Polestagger was to help retarded AI inf not human beings...

[Jarlek]

So they are low tier weapons why shouldn't the higher tier be better?

Polestagger was to help retarded AI inf not human beings...

Top tier? Da fuck? Warspear is 6.8k. That's above Long Spear/Pike, Morningstar, Longsword and Bar Mace, and still in the area of Long Axe and Great Bardiche. Since when were those considered "low tier"?

But that's also one of the things I've been trying to say. If you remove the polestun, then make the spears cheaper. They should be the cheap efficient polearms, not the mid tier ones.