Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.

[Xant]

Wut? What existing -21 reach on polearms?

[Tzar]

Wut? What existing -21 reach on polearms?

Pretty sure waltf4 mentioned something about a -21 reach due to the way the polearm are held.

[Dezilagel]

Poleaxe

141 weapon length

31 pierce stab unloomed

/thread

89 speed

Shorter than all the greatswords in 3/4 dir (right-to left being the exception)

Long (the actual length, without swing modifiers) length + high weight = slower movespeed.

Shitty pole animations... I could go on.

The problem with 2h to pole balance is not regular weapon vs weapon balance, but rather that the balance is upheld by 2 things that are bullshit imho:

1. Versatility. Polearms have the shieldbreakers, the pikes and the lances. 2h got superior CT and 1-slot weapons. Give something of all to both wpf lines. 2h axes shouldn't be unbalanced, 2h should have a pike to choose from and so on.

2. Polestun. Stat rebalancing might be needed, but apperently they're removing this which is a big step forward imo.

 

[Xant]

Pretty sure waltf4 mentioned something about a -21 reach due to the way the polearm are held.

So do the calculations. Glaive has 160 reach, remove -21, then remove -7. Then take a German greatsword, 123 reach. +17 animations. Are you saying that 2h gets almost +50 reach compared to Polearms (on a sideswing)? And that german greatsword outreaches Glaive by FAR on a sideswing?

[Blueberry Muffin]

My point was that despite having longer length, there is no actualy advantage in range.

warspear is a good polears and widely used, hence i used it as an example.

it has long range that greatsword but will rarely hit first.

[Tzar]

So do the calculations. Glaive has 160 reach, remove -21, then remove -7. Then take a German greatsword, 123 reach. +17 animations. Are you saying that 2h gets almost +50 reach compared to Polearms (on a sideswing)? And that german greatsword outreaches Glaive by FAR on a sideswing?

I never mentioned a glaive or german greatsword i just threw out the reach difference between polearms n 2h.

[Xant]

I never mentioned a glaive or german greatsword i just threw out the reach difference between polearms n 2h.

... i didn't say you mentioned glaive or german greatsword, I'm just comparing to numbers to point out that the -21 seems improbable because Glaive's swings outreach german greatsword's, no?

[Tzar]

... i didn't say you mentioned glaive or german greatsword, I'm just comparing to numbers to point out that the -21 seems improbable because Glaive's swings outreach german greatsword's, no?

Glaive left swing - 7 + - 21 = -29 out of a 160 in total so thats what 131 reach

German Greatsword left swing 124 reach

The glaive and the hafted long blade are the only 2 polearms that provides same reach on swings as the greatswords tho...

[Xant]

Glaive left swing - 7 + - 21 = -29 out of a 160 in total so thats what 131 reach

German Greatsword left swing 124 reach

The glaive and the hafted long blade are the only 2 polearms that provides same reach on swings as the greatswords tho...

dude what? did you even read the grip modifiers you posted?

[Tzar]

dude what? did you even read the grip modifiers you posted?

nope... 

[Xant]

Apparently not.

[karasu]

pacefalm

[Xant]

If you put your ear real close to the monitor you can almost hear the wooshing sound from the hundreds of people facepalming..

[Tzar]

If you put your ear real close to the monitor you can almost hear the wooshing sound from the hundreds of people facepalming..

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[Leshma]

Polerms do have a vastly inferior anim, fighting bloody phyrex with those stupid lolstabs, pretend bounces, hiltslashes etc.

So you want to say that Phyrex beats you because he uses 2H and not because he is better at the game. Why don't you make similar build as Phyrex and show him how it's done?