Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.

[Rhaelys]

I actually don't think they need polestagger as it is, because I don't really like the "completely random" part of it. However, I also think that taking it out of the equation completely, without even considering the effects that it might have on balance, is just my-class-needs-to-be-stronger lobbying.
Unfortunately, changing the way it works is a quite time consuming task (unlike removing it), so I don't see it happening anytime soon, unless somebody steps up and does it.

People need to listen to you more.

[Leshma]

Listen up cmpx, polearms are strong these days but just two of them are real issue, pikes.

[Jarlek]

butthurt much? 

I would guess you'd be butthurt if someone rammed a pike up yer arse :/

[cmp]

TBH, I don't have a problem with Pike/Long Spear losing stagger completely. It's balancers' call, though.

[Vote]

TBH, I don't have a problem with Pike/Long Spear losing stagger completely. It's balancers' call, though.

The problem is your balancers dont play the mod. Paul play sometimes rageball but even there he doesnt melee.
The other problem is that your beta testers dont play regular builds, like kingrim with his builds like 12/27 3 ps, 9, shield, skill, 9 athletics and some sort of steal pick.

[Leshma]

TBH, I don't have a problem with Pike/Long Spear losing stagger completely. It's balancers' call, though.

No, stagger can stay but you should remove option to jump with it. That will fix many things but support role of pikes won't be changed much.

[_Tak_]

Yes remove the ability to jump while using a pike is a nice solution

[rufio]

Oh, then maybe I should play a bit. Last time I did, a couple of weeks ago, the balance was good... I wonder what happened in the meantime to make polearms so overpowered.

this coming from a non-polearm user...

You see the problem with your reasoning?

cmp your a nuub who never plays, what happened in the meantime is more people got good at this game, il say it once more polestagger is not a pvp multiplayer implemented ballance, giving a class a longer stun is totally retarded, and  like said was probably implemented to counter bad ai,

[Kafein]

I'd say if anything, remove the polestagger from all polearms, except a few 2-directional ones. The real problem is those stupid moments you are stunlocked by whatever small stick is capable of that... Or when the stagger makes hiltslashing with a GLA-like waaaaay too easy.

The issue with pikes and long spears isn't as serious IMO. Those two should be strong teamplay weapons and useless without teammates. Removing the jump with them seems like a good idea. Also, increase their weight.

[Paul]

Insulting devs is not aceptable. We have to make an example of this. Polestagger stays.

[rufio]

why need to insult devs in first place if they already make fools of themselves 

[Gurnisson]

I'm a piker and support the suggestion of removing jump-stabs

[Tzar]

Insulting devs is not aceptable. We have to make an example of this. Polestagger stays.

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[Vibe]

Unfortunately, changing the way it works is a quite time consuming task (unlike removing it), so I don't see it happening anytime soon, unless somebody steps up and does it.

Well you heard the bossman. Honestly, completely removing polestagger would make poles UP compared to 2h (except for a few like Glaive wupwup). What I'd do is just reduce polestagger so you don't get those unblockable hits in anymore, because that's what's really ridiculous.

[rufio]

polestagger is just that, making a normal stun last long enough for a second hit to be put in. just make it a normal stun again, and where did you conclude it would be up to remove polestagger? because a dev whos main is a polearmplayer who never plays enymore posts his personal ingame experience?