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Offline Wraist

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2011, 07:03:40 am »
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Either horsebump and rider falling should deal damage, or neither do. Currently, being run over could do a third of my health.

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2011, 10:24:51 am »
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Either horsebump and rider falling should deal damage, or neither do. Currently, being run over could do a third of my health.

Although when you are bumped, 50% of the time you aren't knocked out on the ground, and even when it happens, it doesn't last half as long as a horseman stun on the ground when he loses his horse.


Changing this would just make downed riders die in one hit instead of two. If you aren't able to reach the downed rider and can't kill a level 25 footman, you need to play more and improve.

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2011, 10:26:07 am »
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Barring bullshit (sliding into home plate, teleporting, ground collision), which does happen, if you can not kill a downed rider then maybe you should just run. You should certainly stop posting, because any cavalry that gets close enough to hit someone is usually in range to have their head taken off.

If you really hate cav that much, you are probably one of those stupid assholes who think horses dissappear after the first round, call the medic and get a derectocraniotomy.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2011, 10:43:13 am »
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Not really, I killed plenty of horses without the rider feeling any impact whatsoever. Regardless, if he comes in full gallop and I stab the horse to death with my pike he should die from the impact into the ground at least half the time.

first off, how do you know that the rider felt no impact whatsoever? I regularly take damage when my horse is killed. Not to mention you spend quite a while on the floor where people hack and stab at you.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2011, 10:46:15 am »
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The death of a horse should seriously impact the health of the rider, especially if he is riding fast and heavily armoured. Im tired of piking down horses just to have a full health infantry-person spawn in front of me.


this is a completely new idea and hasnt ever been mentioned before.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2011, 04:46:21 pm »
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Bunch of whining horseloving forumwarriors in here, not like he wants horse speed to be halved or anything strange, falling damage is already in game and it´s plain weird cavalry who get thrown full speed face first into the dirt get away with a scratch at most every time.

There are other things that are just plain broken with cavalry, stealth hooves when approaching from behind and rubberbanding/clipping riders escaping justice when falling off are just two examples, but falling damage for horsemen should definitively be in the game.
And if its been brought up before then maybe, just maybe it is because the issue still persists and is as silly as ever.

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2011, 04:48:11 pm »
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Bunch of whining horseloving forumwarriors in here, not like he wants horse speed to be halved or anything strange, falling damage is already in game and it´s plain weird cavalry who get thrown full speed face first into the dirt get away with a scratch at most every time.

There are other things that are just plain broken with cavalry, stealth hooves when approaching from behind and rubberbanding/clipping riders escaping justice when falling off are just two examples, but falling damage for horsemen should definitively be in the game.
And if its been brought up before then maybe, just maybe it is because the issue still persists and is as silly as ever.

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2011, 04:53:54 pm »
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Horse fall damage is already implemented, it's called "enemies get free hits for a moment or two". 
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2011, 05:00:31 pm »
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Bunch of whining horseloving forumwarriors in here, not like he wants horse speed to be halved or anything strange, falling damage is already in game and it´s plain weird cavalry who get thrown full speed face first into the dirt get away with a scratch at most every time.

There are other things that are just plain broken with cavalry, stealth hooves when approaching from behind and rubberbanding/clipping riders escaping justice when falling off are just two examples, but falling damage for horsemen should definitively be in the game.
And if its been brought up before then maybe, just maybe it is because the issue still persists and is as silly as ever.

dude, stealth hooves are necessary, since they nerfed the turning range on the lances, attacking from the front is a massive risk since most weapons outrange your lance now.
Not to mention that usually when i fall on the floor people get two to three free hits on me.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2011, 05:16:14 pm »
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I cant find the link right now, but I saw a TV show on YouTube where the presenter was on horse back in full gothic plate armour. He threw himself off said horse, and got up pretty quickly and was perfectly fine.

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2011, 05:18:01 pm »
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Did his horse die and topple over him?

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2011, 05:30:13 pm »
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So if you die falling from your horse, due to physics, you should also die wen a horse rides into you because of your ribcage buckling and skull splitting :)

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2011, 05:36:16 pm »
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At least falling off your horse should deal the same dmg as someone bumping you. At full speed that is a significant damage.

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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2011, 09:29:39 pm »
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At least falling off your horse should deal the same dmg as someone bumping you. At full speed that is a significant damage.

if this is a realism argument, the difference is that in one a massive horse runs over you, in the other one you fall at high speed.
if its a balance argument, cav has been nurfed alot in the last few patches, practice your awareness and you will die less.
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Re: Death of horse should hurt the rider
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2011, 09:37:44 pm »
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i disagree with the sugguestion, becouse

REALISM =/= BALANCE
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